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mike001

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posted October 27, 2000 02:48 PM

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what am i doing wrong?? i am in my 11th day of dbol and i don't notice shit!! all i notice is my balls are getting smaller and i am breaking out!! what am i doing wrong!! i am taking 30mgs perday/ 1 every 4 hours...
i am also taking Equipoise300mgs and sust at 500mgs.. i know the injectables take at least 4 weeks to kick in, so i am not worried about that,,
i hear from everyone that dbol takes 4 days to a week to kick in, it has almost been 2 weeks!! please help me out!!


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Steel27

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posted October 27, 2000 02:50 PM

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ten days should put the d-bol in full effect. You may not notice size gains at first but others will and eventually you will look in the mirror and see it yourself.


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DYLAN

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posted October 27, 2000 02:51 PM

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What does the dbol look like?
D.


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Slopain

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posted October 27, 2000 02:56 PM

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I relaly dont notice the dbol effects until the 2nd week (noticably). For your balls take clomid, for the acne wash like hell, you can try the various cures on the board.

WHAT DOES YOUR CALORIES, SLEEP, AND TRAINING LOOK LIKE?

Slopain


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dynoalbino

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posted October 27, 2000 02:57 PM

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i have been on legit thais for only 6 days and have already noticed a water-weight gain...tell us what kind you have


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BIG RICK ROCK

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posted October 27, 2000 03:16 PM

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here is what to do::


1- STOP the D-bol NOW ! ! !

2- Start The clomid Every Other Day NOW ! ! !

3- Keep Going with the SUST and EQ

4- Eat More FOOD.

5- Sleep More Time.

6- Lift Heavier Weight.

7- Grow Damn you Grow!!!


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KODIAK99

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posted October 27, 2000 03:26 PM

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Big Rick Rock said it all. . .If you don't grow on those tips, take up tennis.


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d1734

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posted October 27, 2000 03:55 PM

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what is with this myth that injectables take weeks to kick in? take into account the half life of the ester, and dose it accordingly so it kicks in the first week. there is no magic to using 500mg sust throughout the cycle. even newbies should start the first week with 1000-1500mg sust. if you do that, it will feel the same as 500mg a week does in week 3-4.


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Slopain

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posted October 27, 2000 04:00 PM

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lol @ d1734.

BRR Why do you think he should drop the dbols? They could very well be legit, we don't even know his diet thus far.

Slopain


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mike001

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posted October 27, 2000 04:09 PM

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i have the pinks... i eat everything in sight.. i work out every body part once a week and sometimes twice a week.. i sleep 9 hours a night... the dbol is legit.. i have never had very many veins at all, now i have a whole lot more, the pumps are crazy when i work out, but later in the day after i stop, i don't feel anything, no water retention at all!! i don't look bigger, people, friends say, man you should be alittle bigger by now!! it pissed me off!! what is the deal..


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Slopain

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posted October 27, 2000 04:19 PM

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Give it some time if your getting vascular and the crazy pumps they are legit they should last longer though, if your taking any antiestrogens you shouldnt be holding that much water. Your weight is exactly the same?

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BIG RICK ROCK

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posted October 27, 2000 04:32 PM

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Reasons to drop the d-bol in this cycle:

1- Severe acne is being caused by D-bol

2- Small Testicles are being caused by the d-bol.

3- He has been taking 30mg of D-bol for 11days with NO gains.

4- SUST and EQ should be kicking in by week three.

5- D-bol at 30mg perday along with SUST and EQ all three of which Aromatize, will cause Gyno, then the cycle will have to stop all together.

Correction,
tamper down the D-bol.
and Keep the SUST and EQ going, too late to double the SUST, but in the future start at 1,000mg and work your way down from there.

Hope it helps.


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c-dizzo

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posted October 27, 2000 04:33 PM

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man the sus and eq is going to take atleast 3 to 4 weeks before you see the increases, take it ez, you are being impatient


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mike001

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posted October 27, 2000 04:47 PM

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thank you for the help guys.. i will just quite the damn dbol, maybe i am just being impatient, but 11 days and no gains from the dbol, that is bull shit and a waste of money. but i guess i can discontinue it and look forward to the Equipoise and sustanon to kick in, if it does.... if anyone else has any opinions i need your input
-MIKE-


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Bubba

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posted October 27, 2000 04:57 PM

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I can't really add much. I did a whole cycle of Sust at a low does and got minimal gains. Sometimes thats the way it goes. I feel mood can really affect gains. I had some stress going on at the time and that affected my cycle big time. Try and keep down the anxiety. Good luck Bro!

[This message has been edited by Bubba (edited October 27, 2000).]


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mike001

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posted October 27, 2000 05:05 PM

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oh! and BTW, i take vicodine for my head akes sometimes, maybe that can have alot to do with it!! does anyone know anything about vicodine while on cycle, if it hinders any gains.... thank you for all the input,
-MIKE-


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Badkins21

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posted October 27, 2000 10:27 PM

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...don't know what to say bro, I was up over 20 pounds in my first 2 weeks of 30 mg/day of dbol (Methandon), and still going...everybody's different, you may need to up the doses or just try different drugs...for the acne, take 5-10 grams (yes, grams) of vitamin b-5 per day...GOOD LUCK, HOPE THE SUST AND EQ KICK IN AND MAKE YOU HUGE, AND SOOOOOOON!!!!

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AS

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posted October 28, 2000 09:45 PM

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i would drop the dball as rick stated,,,i used VLD (very low dose)and noticed the strength gains almost immediatly, middle of cycle was taking 10mg of dball with cratine and past 2oo pounds,,strength and sex drive went through the roof,,,dball may not be good for you at this point


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MR. BMJ

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posted October 29, 2000 03:58 AM

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If you are not gaining anything, then how would you know which is fake since you are taking 3 types of drugs? What if you cut out the d-bol and the gains are no different? The d-bol may be the only thing that is working, and the other drugs may be fake. I think you should keep the d-bol in the cycle. What types/brands of Equipoise are you using? The sos is mare than likely real, especially if it is a pre-load. Obviously something is working, but the question is which one(s)?
I have a somewhat different opinion on the time for these drugs to show their effects. I always get most of my gains within the first couple of weeks, so I don't buy that idea that it takes 2 to 3 weeks to kick in.

Also, the zits will be caused by the test (Sust etc.) too and not just the d-bol. This is something you have to know/accept before doing any androgens. There are ways to counter this problem.

I think you need to go back and check out your diet and training schemes because if these are bad, then your gains will suck no matter what drug(s) you are taking. What do you eat in your diet? and how much?


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MR. BMJ

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posted October 29, 2000 04:04 AM

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Also, don't worry about the Vicodins.


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flexed1

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posted October 29, 2000 10:57 AM

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i would worry about the vicadin as they decrease your appetite. d bol in some makes you stronger at first than followed by increased size. your pumps should be awesome. sus also has excellent pumps but it takes longer to feel them (3 weeks)


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