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bber2000

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posted October 26, 2000 06:42 PM
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He still looks cut, on the biceps.

Burnboy

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posted October 26, 2000 07:24 PM
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i think he juices right before every movie
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KODIAK99

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posted October 26, 2000 07:24 PM
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yes

KODIAK99

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posted October 26, 2000 07:25 PM
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yes

BigJay81

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posted October 26, 2000 07:56 PM
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WHY NOT?
ITS NEVER FAILLED HIM YET.
I'M SURE HE'S AT LEAST HITTING THE HGH
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youngdeltman

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posted October 26, 2000 08:23 PM
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Yep, I think so.

bber2000

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posted October 26, 2000 11:07 PM
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Yeah GH huh

Tomo

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posted October 27, 2000 12:11 AM
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EVEN WITH HIS HEART PROBLEMS?--TOMO

Tomo

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posted October 27, 2000 12:12 AM
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EVEN WITH HIS HEART PROBLEMS?--TOMO

Tomo

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posted October 27, 2000 12:13 AM
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EVEN WITH HIS HEART PROBLEMS?--TOMO

jersey boy

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posted October 27, 2000 12:19 AM
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Heart problems are supposed to be taken of with the surgery. It's the kidney problems I have heard of that he needs to be careful of.
And hell yes, he has too big of an ego to let himself get the same size of average Joe Bodybuilder.
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bber2000

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posted October 27, 2000 01:09 AM
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true

c-dizzo

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posted October 27, 2000 01:25 AM
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well he won the olympia in 80, and the idea for terminator came full circle in 83, now at the beginning of terminator he is all nude, man he has a cypionate bloat that is a juicers dream, in twins he was looking helluva good, hey arnold weighs around 215 and he is 6'2, and look you can see every muscle in his body, man arnold is the man, he is the greatest, look Im sure if anyone takes it he is the guru of it all.

JoeyDillinger

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posted October 27, 2000 02:28 AM
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Yea the Oak is the best body builder there ever was. He is 10 times better than yates or any of those bloated monsters.

susthead

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posted October 27, 2000 04:34 AM
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i dont think he as jucied for a while in end of days he was fucking small man... after hes heart valve trouble i think the last time he juiced was before eraser he was quite big in that .

strengthmonster

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posted October 27, 2000 05:31 AM
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As far as I know Arnold was aware of his heart condition when he was younger as well and kept it a secret. Despite the risk he still juiced then, so why would he stop now if it was just for health reasons. I'd say he juices up for movies. I mean come on, its his presence that sells movies. He must have took some time off gear during the time of his op. and he didn't make any movies then either. It's obvious that the man is not as big as he was years ago, but he is getting older and will still be recovering. People tend to forget this as Hollywood has a knack of making older people look younger. Stallone obviously still does and they are kinda friends so they probably do each others shots and plan courses together! HEHE! Although Arnold looks 'the man' in his films he must still be recovering from his op. a little but he's not exactly what I'd call work shy either. Give the guy a break, most of us take it without getting paid his kinda money so why would he give it all up? Three words - "He'll be back"

drivebyposer

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posted October 27, 2000 01:29 PM
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yes I think he does. He always comes in full for the movies but if you look at him at his show-The Arnold Classic-or at least in the OAK updates that some of the magazines have you will se that he is smaller and showing his age. I know that he must do some.
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ROIDRANGER

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posted October 27, 2000 01:39 PM
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well shit hes getting old what you expect???
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bber2000

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posted October 27, 2000 05:51 PM
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heh

LivinLarger

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posted October 27, 2000 08:24 PM
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Multi Millionaire, Best Bodybuilder of all time, Has been into steroids since the late 60's, Billions of people flock to the theatre to see his massive ripped physique, Hot wife, can afford the best and safest gear available, why would he?
Of course he still juices, so would I or anyone else in his position. I do believe he has excellent genetics, but he has been on a lot of gear for his movies. Arnold was pretty damn huge in Predator as well.

Jay287

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posted October 28, 2000 07:41 AM
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I know for a fact that he has to go in for dialysis once a week due to the deteriation of his kidneys which is not a very publicized fact due to the many uneducated people who would stand up and scream "see what steroids will do to you". I do have to agree with everyone though on the way he does look and I hope that I look like that when I am in my 50's. Please also take into consideration that the man is blessed with genetics that some of us cannot dream of. One more question...with all of that money..you'd think he'd get the GH gap in his teeth fixed...right?

Primo_man

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posted October 28, 2000 12:08 PM
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Arnold is definately the man!!! I just watched pumping iorn for the millionth time last night. I would give my left nut to know exactly what he was taking for that Olympia! It's kinda funny how he is almost as lean (I'd say with in 5-7 lbs of fat), 101 days before the olympia, as he is in the olympia. I wonder if he took thyroid and diuretics for the show, probably.

bber2000

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posted October 28, 2000 12:17 PM
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I dont think he took any Gh during his bb career, he was a Primo man..his teeth was like that when he was a teen from what i recall. Gh barely been introduce when Dorian Yates was around. Arnold was back in the late 60's and early 80's era. So i dont he took it. I know he should do something about that gap in his teeth...lol

imprint516

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posted October 29, 2000 01:03 PM
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heard his fav cycle was dbol/primo.......think i might do thjat for the big winter cycle soon and add some cyp..

THESAINT

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posted October 29, 2000 03:43 PM
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I asked Sergio Oliva that same question at a seminar. He's from Chi-town also. He said,he had no need to, he's keeping his size from diet and lifting. I find that hard to believe.

santo smith

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posted October 29, 2000 03:54 PM
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I seen him on MTV the other day,
he was looking HUGE

Drizzt88

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posted October 29, 2000 04:30 PM
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I really dont think Arnold has been on gear for awhile....maybe small amts of GH to combat aging...but has anyone seen him recently without his shirt? I saw some real good pics of him and his family on vacation over the summer...Dont get me wrong, for a man his age-he looks great, but a juiced body? - No way....he had the remnants of years of juice-still solid and thick...but not the kind of density and size of someone who has been on in recent times. Just the remnants of years of the good stuff....plus he was real soft...Think about it now too....none of his movie roles in the past couple years have really required him to be huge and ripped - Arnold sells himself on star power alone nowadays - he definitely doesn't need to tax his health anymore....just my 2 cents....

bber2000

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posted October 29, 2000 04:47 PM
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bro do u have the pics?

Drizzt88

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posted October 29, 2000 05:25 PM
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Sorry Bro....the pics are lost to me....I'm embarrassed to say it - but I saw them in National Enquirer or Star or one of those other mags that fat Bon-Bon eating housewives look at while they watch their soap operas and game shows....it had a pic of Arnold on the cover though so I had to look....it was from over the summer though..and it had him and his family vacationing on a boat - another unrelated pic in it showed him sitting at a pool without his shirt...again, he looked great for a guy of his age, but was getting real saggy and flat in the pecs...etc..Whatever...he'll still always be a legend....

Bubba

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posted October 29, 2000 05:53 PM
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I can back Drizz on those pics. I saw them also in one of those rags. The old boys at the gym where talking about them too. I also heard the dialysis rumour. I'm sure he buffs up for his movies. A mild cycle and some dyretics to lean up on.

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