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airtyme

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posted October 26, 2000 05:38 PM

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Well bro's, the results are in. This is how my two cycles went. If you vet's don't remember and for you new guys info, I was planning on doing a 3-4 week short cycle compare to a 12 week long. Both are complete and here are the results:

SHORT CYCLE

week....deca.....primotestin....clomid
1.......400mg....750mg..........50mg/eod...
2.......400mg....750mg..........50mg/eod...
3.......300mg....500mg..........50mg/eod...
4.......200mg....250mg..........50mg/eod...

Then the standard 1 week clomid 100mg/day and another week at 50mg/day

Gained about 10 lbs and retained 6-7 after 4 weeks off. I really don't care for this one to much. Just when I felt the gains and strenght coming on, it was time to quit. I would only recommend this type of cycle to someone who has limits on the time frame they can use, or money limitations. Otherwise, I don't care for it.

LONG CYCLE:
week..d-bol...test...EQ......winny....clomid
1.....25mg/d..750mg..400mg...xxxxx....50/eod
2.....25mg/d..750mg..400mg...xxxxx....50/eod
3.....25mg/d..750mg..400mg...xxxxx....50/eod
4.....25mg/d..750mg..400mg...xxxxx....50/eod
5.....xxxxxx..750mg..400mg...xxxxx....50/eod
6.....xxxxxx..750mg..400mg...xxxxx....50/eod
7.....xxxxxx..500mg..400mg...50mg/eod.50/eod
8.....xxxxxx..250mg..400mg...50mg/eod.50/eod
9.....xxxxxx..xxxxx..400mg...50mg/eod.50/eod
10....xxxxxx..xxxxx..400mg...50mg/eod.xxxxxx
11....xxxxxx..xxxxx..300mg...50mg/eod.xxxxxx
12....xxxxxx..xxxxx..200mg...50mg/eod.xxxxxx

Results: OH HELL YA!

By far, the best cycle that I have ever done. The gains and strength were phenomanol for me. I started the d-bol to kick start the strength and size (mostly water) until the test starting to kick in, which was about the third week. The EQ is used through out the entire cycle as the base. You get good solid gains from it which is aided by the other products. I started taking winny midway because with the weight gain I was receiving, my endurance level dropped a little. An added bonus was that I got a good "extra" kick as far as strength goes. I went from 185lbs to 205 lbs post cycle. It has now been about 5 1/2 weeks and I haven't lost anything. Size or strenght. I think that is because I stopped the d-bol early and the test (both retain water) 3/4's of the way thru. So any water weight that I list was done "during" the cycle. I did put on some body fat (5%) during the cycle, which is why Mr. Laredo said I should change my name to "airballon" ( i'll get you back for that, just wait until we go skiing again).

Anyway, I am not worried about the fat until late winter, early spring. That is just part of the game for a bulking cycle.

In the end, I discovered that short cycles are not for me and the long one that I did, Fuck I can't wait until I start again!


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Bam Bam

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posted October 26, 2000 05:51 PM

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congrats bro,,good job..Bam Bam


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gipper

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posted October 26, 2000 10:42 PM

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I'm doing a similar cycle now except I'm using deca instead of EQ. Why not take test all the way through with a slight taper at the end. Would this be a problem.


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Dr.Atlas

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posted October 26, 2000 11:29 PM

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Congrats on the gains bro. Did I read this wrong, you used clomid at start of cycle then discontinued it at end? If so, why? It isn't the best vs. gyno, and no way your balls are gonna be putting out juice at those test levels. Just looking to learn. Peace!

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KODIAK99

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posted October 27, 2000 12:31 AM

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nice job and great post.


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rainhorn

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posted October 27, 2000 05:40 AM

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cog' keep the gaines comeing


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airtyme

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posted October 27, 2000 10:09 AM

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i stopped the clomid 2 weeks after my last test shot. By then the test was out of my system and my normal test levels did no go down much because of the constant use of the clomid. The rest of the cycle was winny and EQ which really did not effect my natural test levels enough to use them. I stopped the test 3/4s of the way thru so there wouldn't be to much of a crah at the end. It worked out just the way I had anticipated.


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DREXX

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posted October 27, 2000 12:41 PM

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Stopping the clomid when he did makes sense but not for the reason he stated.

Clomid can't keep your hpta normal on a cycle longer than 2-3 weeks. No way in hell!!! Your body isn't stupid...

I would have taken the clomid for an anti-e when he took it and I thought he stopped taken it since winny and eq don't aromatize.

Anyway if you gained 20lbs but went up 5% bodyfat wouldn't that mean you gained only 11lbs of lbm and 9lbs of fat.

Don't mean to burst your bubble but are you sure this is your best ever cycle?

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airtyme

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posted October 30, 2000 11:10 AM

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DREXX,

Actually, One of the reason that I stopped taking it was as you stated concerning the non-aromitization of the eq and winny.

As far as the bodyfat goes. I had it rechecked this weekend. What you said about the bdyfat to lean muscle made sense, so It made me inquire (thanks). Anyway, very different results, my actual bdofy fat was only a little below a 2% increase. Now keep in mind, the test that I took (all 5 times) were caliper test and we all know the accuracy on those puppies. Anyway, from what the trainer said, I may have had a different reading a few weeks ago for various reason such as a little water retention, a different person taking the test and so on.

I guess the whole point is, I am extremely happy with how this cycle went. Especially when I look in the mirror. And isn't that the best test?

By the way, some one emailed me about side effects. The most I had other than water retention, was increase in acne and increase in sex drive. Hairloss was not a problem, but then again, that dosen't run in my family.

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Badkins21

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posted October 30, 2000 11:32 AM

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If YOU are happy with how the cycle went, that's all that matters! Never compare yourself to anyone---the judges do that! Congrats on the cycles, and thanks for posting such good recaps! 'Til next time!

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airtyme

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posted October 30, 2000 01:41 PM

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I will post more results weh I am 2 months out, just to see what all was kept.

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airtyme

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posted October 30, 2000 01:42 PM

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I will post more results weh I am 2 months out, just to see what all was kept.

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DREXX

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posted October 30, 2000 03:00 PM

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AirTyme: If you only take about 2% bodyfat then you are right. Great Cycle and more power to you.

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