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Kakdiesel

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posted October 26, 2000 03:01 PM

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I have a question for everybody on the board who has done a sust cycle..currently I am in one while using 10 mg of Nolva a day (half a tablet) to fight off gyno and water retention. Before I started this cycle, i got difference opinions.

1) Using small doses of Nolva everyday will fight water retention and the bloated look. Will not hinder muscle gains since water retention will be lost anyways at the end of cycle therefore the amount of muscle gained will be the same if nolva was or wasnt used throughout the cycle. Plus nolva fights for estrogen sites that would cause gyno and even increased fat gain during a cycle..More test, less estrogen bound, increase of chances for muscle gain.

or

2) using nolva during a cycle will hinder all gains. use only if gyno begins to develop.

Has anybody used opinon 1? What are people's general opinons on this. I know the Nolva during a cycle is a old question but if anybody could, any info or comments would be great thanks

peace

Kakdiesel (a.k.a shaqdiesel)

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Kakdiesel

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posted October 26, 2000 03:10 PM

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bump please


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Slopain

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posted October 26, 2000 03:26 PM

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Nolva cuts into gains minimally, most of it will be water gains. It will cut slightly into muscle gains only because with the water, youd be a little stronger which helps put on a little more muscle since youll be using heavy weights. It is very very minimal though.

You need estrogen to grow, using 10mg a day is a good low dose depending on how much sus your using that really wont cut into gains to much and may keep off some water.

If you search "nolvadex and gains" you will be dumbfounded by all the information you find, until of course you read it so click on my tagline and get startes (remember to click on archives at the search screen.)

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Trinity13

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posted October 26, 2000 03:27 PM

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Take the Nolva, better safe than sorry.

If you start to develop gyno, can't reverse it after it starts. Nolva can only stop it from getting worse. Swollen nipples on a man looks really bad.

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The Shadow

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posted October 26, 2000 04:52 PM

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Go with the 10 mg Nolva.

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el cubano

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posted October 26, 2000 04:58 PM

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I use nolva throuhout all heavy androgen cycles. I have not noticed it cutting into gains. It does have some fat burning qualities, which adds fuel to the myth. It was shown to slightly decrease IGF-1 values in pregnant women in ONE study which began this whole cutting into gains bullshit.

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