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Cool Novice Posts: 20 |
how do these three testosterones compare. sust nile can get them all for same price, 20 an amp, chose omna this time but will do something else possibly next. im not asking what the differences are in the compounds. sust=omna and primotest is enanthate, I know. just which is the best of the best? trapsaplenty | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 97 |
Sust and Omna are similar and for some people interchangeable. It basically comes down to personal pref. Water retention might be more of a factor for one or the other depending on your individual reaction. I have no experience with primotest, but I know there are some fakes going around that are extra dirty. What city are you from? [This message has been edited by PerfectRep (edited October 26, 2000).] | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 590 |
If they are all $20 an amp, I would go with the Niles. You won't be getting ripped off as much. D. | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 20 |
perfectrep where in indiana man? trapsaplenty | ||
Freak Posts: 1508 |
$20!!!!!wtf you shouldnt be paying more than $12..and $10 on the omnas....test is test..use what you could get...never saw a fake primoteston amp..but there are fake omnas and niles my opinion go with the ethanate and if you have access to sten mix the 2 together | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 98 |
i prefer the sust250....man at $20 an amp though your getting ripped!!!! save your cash bro and get to know some of the guys on the board.....maybe if your good you will find them a bit cheaper. shaw | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 464 |
20 buck an amp. WOW, I would consider quiting at those prices. Try more like 12-16 for a real price. | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 18 |
BUMp I totally agree with the vets 20.00 you are getting fucking ripped even 15.00 is a rip go any where from 10.00 to 12.00 if he gives you lip tell him go go fuck someone else.. You can get 2 cycles for what you would have paid if you dropped 20.00 an amp. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 97 |
Michigan City | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 97 |
BUMP | ||
Moderator Posts: 1211 |
$20 an amp???? Rape Rape Rape.
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Cool Novice Posts: 20 |
perfectrep im just north of bloomington drop me an email man trapsaplenty | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 168 |
It differs from person to person. I had good gains on Omna my last cycle and I paid no where new $20 an amp for them....... "B" | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 51 |
Have to love the Primoteston.... started training my best friend naturally for 8 weeks and he went from 170 to 192 and then hit a plateau ...started him on 500mgs of CID primotest and he is 227lbs now and holding little water. Do not pay more than $12...save your Benjamins and make some friends who may be able to help you save your money and enlongate your experience | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 338 |
Time for an ester article I don't remember who wrote this... Which is better here , which is better there.Here it is PLAIN AND SIMPLE...One of the most misunderstood subjects in the world of steroids is the ester--the mechanism by which injectable esterified steroids like testosterone cypionate, testosterone enanthate, and Sustanon work. Arguments over the superiority of cypionate to enanthate, or Sustanon to all other testosterones are of course very common. Let's take an authoritative look at the ester and what specifically it does to a steroid. I'm sure that if you have taken an interest in anabolic steroids you have noticed the similarities on the labeling of many drugs. Let's look at testosterone for example. One can find compounds like testosterone cypionate, enanthate, propionate, heptylate; caproate, phenylpropionate, isocaproate, decanoate, acetate, the list goes on and on. In all such cases the parent hormone is testosterone, which had been modified by adding an ester (enanthate, propionate etc.) to its structure. The following question arises: What is the difference between the various esterified versions of testosterone in regards to their use in bodybuilding? A: An ester is a chain composed primarily of carbon and hydrogen atoms. This chain is typically attached to the parent steroid hormone at the 17th carbon position (beta orientation), although some compounds do carry esters at position 3 (for the purposes of this article it is not crucial to understand the exact position of the ester). Esterification of an injectable anabolic/androgenic steroid basically accomplishes one thing, it slows the release of the parent steroid from the site of injection. This happens because the ester will notably lower the water solubility of the steroid, and increase its lipid (fat) solubility. This will cause the drug to form a deposit in the muscle tissue, from which it will slowly enter into circulation as it is picked up in small quantities by the blood. Generally, the longer the ester chain, the lower the water solubility of the compound, and the longer it will take to for the full dosage to reach general circulation. Slowing the release of the parent steroid is a great benefit in steroid medicine, as free testosterone (or other steroid hormones) previously would remain active in the body for a very short period of time (typically hours). This would necessitate an unpleasant daily injection schedule if one wished to maintain a continuous elevation of testosterone (the goal of testosterone replacement therapy). By adding an ester, the patient can visit the doctor as infrequently as once per month for his injection, instead of having to constantly re-administer the drug to achieve a therapeutic effect. Clearly without the use of There are many different esters that are used with anabolic/androgenic steroids, but again, they all do basically the same thing. Esters vary only in their ability to reduce a steroid's water solubility. An ester like propionate for example will slow the release of a steroid for a few days, while the duration will be weeks with a decanoate ester. Esters have no effect on the tendency for the parent steroid to convert to estrogen or DHT (dihydrotestosterone: a more potent metabolite) nor will it effect the overall muscle-building potency of the compound. Any differences in results and side effects that may be noted by bodybuilders who have used various esterified versions of the same base steroid are just issues of timing. Testosterone enanthate causes estrogen related problems more readily than Sustanon, simply because with enanthate testosterone levels will peak and trough much sooner (1-2 week release duration as opposed to 3 or 4). Likewise testosterone suspension is the worst in regards to gyno and water bloat because blood hormone levels peak so quickly with this drug. Instead of waiting weeks for testosterone levels to rise to their highest point, here we are at most looking at a couple of days. Given an equal blood level of testosterone, there would be no difference in the rate of aromatization or DHT conversion between different esters. There is Sustanon: The "king" of testosterone blends. Esters work in a well-understood and predictable manner, and do not alter the activity of the parent steroid in any way other than to delay its release. Although the lure surrounding various steroid products like testosterone cypionate, Sustanon, Omnadren etc. certainly makes for interesting conversation, realistically it just amounts to misinformation that the athlete would be better off ignoring. Testosterone is testosterone and anyone who is going to tell you one ester form of this (or any) hormone is much better than another one should do a little more research, and a lot less talking. Phenylpropionate: Chemical Structure C9H10O2. Decanoate: Chemical Structure C10H20O2. Undecanoate: Chemical Structure C11H22O2. |
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