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Maverik

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posted October 25, 2000 09:43 PM

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OK, here is the situation. I have in my posession, 100 tabs of Cynoplus* by Smith Kline Beetcham. It contains 30 mcgs of T3 AND 120 mcgs of T4 in each tab. I will resume my keto diet next week. I am considering adding this in but I am still unsure. I know that because of the combo of the drugs, it is gonna be very potent stuff so here is what I have considered doing. Starting out at 1/2 tab per day and tapering up to no more than 1.5 tabs per day. At my peak this would give me 45 mcgs of T3 and 180 mcgs of T4. I have had several people tell me to be careful with this product but it is just lying around collecting dust. I know that T3 is faster acting and that T4 takes longer to work because it has to convert to T4 before it can be of any use. But my thoughts were that because of this it would give me a gradual taper at the end because I would still have T4 in my system which would take a while to convert, thereby giving me a slow decline. What do you guys think? I am either going to try it or throw it away. I would just order some T3 from one of our overseas friends but he only carries T4 now. Gymrat says he thinks it will work fine but I would like some other opinions before I decide for sure.


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Maverik

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posted October 26, 2000 04:05 PM

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Man, I get more responses at the candian board than I do here. I figured I would get way more here. WTF??


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DREXX

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posted October 26, 2000 04:42 PM

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hihihi!

Read my reply on therealj's board...

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GymRatSD

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posted October 26, 2000 04:59 PM

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A question like is too deep for this board. I'm glad you saw my post on the X-Man's board...


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Maverik

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posted October 26, 2000 06:48 PM

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Thanks fellas. This board sure has changed. Used to be questions like these would be answered. Guess from now on, I will post any questions or thoughts I have on therealj's board or x-man's board where people actually notice. Later...


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d1734

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posted October 26, 2000 10:06 PM

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mav, don't take it so personally. i would help but i am not familiar with the effectiveness of a combo of T3 + T4. if i was i woulda helped.


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Maverik

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posted October 26, 2000 11:10 PM

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No , I am not taking it personally. What I meant was that since there is so much "traffic" running through here, it is hard to sort through everything. The smaller boards move so much slower that you will get some responses because everyone sees it. I even have trouble picking out questions I want to answer because every time you type a reply, five other threads have popped up right above it.

[This message has been edited by Maverik (edited October 26, 2000).]


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The_Iron_Game

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posted October 27, 2000 06:02 AM

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Forget going with T3 and T4, T3 is by far the most potent, make sure you stack some form of aas with it so you dont get muscle loss. Both T3 and T4 are extremelly catabloic and will eat away at muscle mass and anything else that gets in the way.I would say stick with the T3 (the main difference between 3 and 4 is the potency, they both have the same effect only one much greater than the other. Hope this helps inb some way.


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andre

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posted October 27, 2000 08:52 AM

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maverick, i did some research on cytomel, has tons of threads by warlobo, but it sounds alittle scary man.. but if u are gonna take it, make sure u take it with a/s and stack it with clen, plus avoid excessive amount of exercise. i am just afraid of messin my throid up.. what if it doesnt come back up after 6 weeks.. I would like to hear from people who has used it and their experiences also.. if we dont get any posts on this, and u find out anything, please email me and let me know..


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The_Iron_Game

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posted October 27, 2000 11:15 AM

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Hey Maverick, when i said forget going with t3 and t4 i didnt mean dont do any but dont do both. Stick with the T3. Ok I recently came off a cycle of T3 (Cytomel). I stacked it with Clen and winny. The winny was for the purpose of keeping muscle.

Cycle was as follows.

Wk1 40mg of winny/day + 5 clen /day
Wk2 40mg of winny/day + 6 clen /day
Wk3 50mg of winny/day + ECA + T3 (c below)
Wk4 50mg of winny/day + ECA + T3
Wk5 50mg of winny/day + 7 clen + T3
Wk6 40mg of winny/day + 7 clen
Wk7 30mg of winny/day + 5 clen
wk8 ECA + 20mg of winny

Reduce carbs dramatically increase protein to 400 grams/day. I had some great results and dropped bf from 17% to 10.7%.

T3 I wouldnt ever go for more than 3 wks on the stuff and 6 weeks off. I Have done alot of reading on the stuff and it is not something you want to mess around with. If you do it for too long your body will shut down natural production and it will not come back. Then you are gonna have to use it for ever to keep T3 at normal levels. Never go higher than 100mcg/day for no more than 4 days (3 much safer)

As stated above I used it for 1/day for 3 days then 2 / day for 3 days then 3 /day for 3 days then 4 / day for 3 days then came back down with the same patern.

And Maverick I know how you feel about the posts not all getting answered. Not been a member for too long but have been reading posts for a while. I have only asked about 4 q's and done think a single person has bothered replying. Seems everyone round here wants to get info for free but never wants to waste time givin it. Take it easy bro. Need any more info giv me a shout.


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GymRatSD

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posted October 27, 2000 11:51 AM

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Hey, "Iron Game", if you don't know anything about the product, don't respond. It's obvious by your posts that you have no knowledge of the product, the hormones involved, or the mechanism behind it whatsoever.

Stick with what you know, and by the looks of the replies you've provided, it doesn't seem like much.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted October 27, 2000 12:05 PM

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Hey GYMRAT, If you read the post proeprly people were asked for personal experiences with T3. I put my down. I got that cycle off a very experienced user. Obviously I changed a few things (shorter cycle). Why do you feel the need to put people down? Is it some sort of macho thing you have. Im a big man so I can put down people. PERSONAL EXPERIENCES, SO I GAVE MINE, WHAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS. FUCK YOU MAN. Leaving this board after a few months of reading because of people like you.

Sorry to anyone else who has to read this but this guy has pissed me off. Acting like a child in a chat room.


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GymRatSD

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posted October 27, 2000 12:15 PM

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Uh, if you read the initial post, you would note that Maverik was asking about information about the product Cynoplus, which is a synthetic blend of the hormones T3 and T4 (which I'm sure you didn't know).

Second, he was asking about experiences with that product. This is another thing you don't have.

T3 is a subject that's been beaten to death. Maverik has been around long enough to know this.

Also, you don't know the difference between T3 and T4, yet you're giving advice on the subject. If you did some research (which you obviously didn't), you'd know that T3 and T4 are different, yet related HORMONES. It has nothing to do with the potentcy of the substance.

Simply, If you don't know, don't respond. This is why I don't reply much here anymore -- too many moronic posts.


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Maverik

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posted October 27, 2000 05:03 PM

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I appreciate the info, The Iron Game, but Gymrat is right. I do know most of this. I usually help others with designing cuttin cycles. But thanks anyways. Just for your info, the cycle will look like this:

.5tabs per day for 5 days
1 tab per day for 5 days
1.5 tabs per day for 5 days
2 tabs per day for 7 days
1.5 tabs per day for 5 days
1 tab per day for 5 days
.5 tabs per day for 5 days

Which would give me a total of 37 days or a little over 5 weeks. I will be doing keto during the week and carb loading on the weekends. Hope it goes well. I did some figuring and if T4 is 1/4 as effective as T3, I would be getting an equivalent of 60 mcgs of T3 in each tab, or 30 mcgs per half tab. I have done a cycle of T3 before and it worked great. Last time I went up to 100 mcgs of T3 per day at the peak, so I think I wil be fine going with the doses above.And my thyroid seems fine. No fat gain yet. I will let you guys know how it goes since no one seems to have much experience with it. The good thing is that I have 100 tabs so I will have around 50 left after this cycle to use for my future deca only cycle!I will probably only do one half per day the whole way through for that cycle.


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