It started 4mon. ago, when i email SSMAN, and asked him about his famous cycle, where he put on 50pounds. I asked him what he thought about ultragan(EQ). He emailed me back, said he loves ultragan, and if i wanted i can email his friend widegripchins, and he will help me out. Well shit, SSMAN was a well respected bro, on the board and i thought nonthing of it. So i placed a small order(in july) from WGC, and everything went smoothly. 2weeks later I needed some other goodies. Well this is where things started to get fishy. WGC was having problems with his supplier so he found another one. Then he went up on all his prices, b/c of the change in suppliers.(Well shit happens so i thought nonthing of it). I placed my second order, things went smoothly, he recieved my money, and told me that he shiped out my products. One week later NONTHING!!! I was worried but i still waited. 2weeks later, nonthing, so i emailed him to see WTF was the problem. I also emailed SSMAN to see WTF was up. A week or so goes by and i havent' heard anything from either of them. Then Someone(no names will be used!!!) posted on EF about a possible scammer, and if the scammer doesn't email him, he will post his name). Well we both got emails from WGC and SSMAN. WGC said to me: that he ran out of my product, and will have to make a special trip down to mexico for me.(The first lie: How the fuck does someone send out my shit, then he doesn't have it). Well his buddy SSMAN comes to the rescue, and emails me and says: WGC had every intention on sending out your order. He is a good guy. He just got added to source list, so he is swamped with orders.

So i believed SSMAN, b/c i know shit can go wrong. WGC tells me for a second time that my order was sent, and that i will receive it in 3days(he also said he was going to throw in some extra EQ for my patients). Well of course this was the last time i heared from WGC and its been around 3mon. So i turned to his friend SSMAN.
Since the disapearing act of WGC i have heard from SSMAN one time. This is what he emailed me and said(date was 9/21/00):
Hey bro,

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I just got back from a very
long (too damn long) business trip. My friend who rescued me from the airport
last night knows widegrip too. My understanding (so far anyway....details
are sketchy) is that he had a tangle with local authorities nearly 2 weeks
ago. While passing through a sobriety check point he was pulled over.
The car was searched because of his odd behavior and they found some gear.
I'm trying to piece the whole story together, but it will take me a day
or two. My friends are working to locate his gear so that I can personally
fill any outstanding orders. He doesn't want anyone to lose out on their
gear, and I feel obligated to help since i sent good bro's to him. I'll
keep you posted.........keep in contact with me bro. We'll work through
all of this together

SSMAN

A few things you need to look at: First off the letter is very true, and this can happen to anyone. But, if WGC sent my order out, then 7weeks later gets busted, how does it related to me. It doesn't.( so that was the 2nd lie. WGC never sent my order) Also Mr. SSMAN made a mistake, and said that he will PERSONALLY take care of ALL outstanding orders. I know there are sevral people on this board and many other boards that got dicked over by WGC. So SSMAN was going to take care of it. HA HA HA

Also i have an email that he sent out to someone(NO NAMES, and please don't try to guess his name)It was about 3weeks before i got my email from SSMAN. Enjoy:

I sent you email on Friday and asked you to give me some time to
>see
>> >what
>> >>is going on. You opted for blatant disrespect of my request and
>ensued
>> >>a witch hunt. I did not refer you to someone who is going to scam
>> >you.
>> >> I take this as a slap in the face to both me and my friend. You
>> >dealt
>> >>with this in such an infantile manner, which is something I honestly
>> >never
>> >>expected from you. I have discussed this situation with moderators
>> >and
>> >>our mutual friend. Being called a scammer over such a meager amount
>> >of
>> >>money would have me ready to catch the next flight out and personally
>> >hand
>> >>deliver your order. I would like to see you call the man a scammer,
>> > or
>> >>drag my name into your juvenile acts, when standing toe to toe.
> As
>> >I
>> >>stated
>> >>in my last email to you, I will ensure that your order is received
>> >in full.
>> >> After that is complete please forget that either of us exists.
>> >>
>> >>SSMAN

From that email it sounds like he has some Moderators that back him. So if this gets deleted, I will not be suprised.

So,after i recieved the final email from SSMAN. I email him twice and nonthing, i had a Moderator, email him to see what the deal was, and nonthing. So i well put this behind me and learn from my mistakes.
My opinion on Widegripchins is that he is a scammer(and i think his email addy is still active. STAY AWAY)!!! My opinion on SSMAN,LOL. Well he did tell me that he would take care of my order and all the other outstanding orders...So what does that make him? Were WGC and SSMAN in on it? Or, are they both behind bars getting ass fucked?(sorry i just had too)I'll let you decided. Thanks for reading. (Being patient is a good thing, but having too much will get you no where in life...) I welcome the opinions and thoughts of others. Thanks... Bsjohnson

By the way B_funk i strongly believe they are the same person. Like i told Bsjohnson..when WGC disapears, so does SSMAN(superman syndrome)

Yup....Good post, and I will back the thread, and facts!!!!!

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HMMMM....HMMMM

Does anyone rememmbera ********* and ********* thread a while back about a respected vet screwing them over? And they never told us who? well we now know, I just saw a SSMAN post a week ago, anyone going to track his IP and find where he's at?

Ask before you start posting names!

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[This message has been edited by E2 (edited October 26, 2000).]

quote:

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Originally posted by bsjohnson:
"... I just feel like a Jack ASS."

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First, BUMP...

Second, no way bro! You took the right steps, no reason to feel bad about it. We've all seen people lose huge sums on legitimate ventures, why should you feel shitty about losing some dough in this game? Keep on...

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SIZE MATTERS MOST

"Obsession is passion. Use it. Make it your strength." -by Puc

Refresh my memory on the Fitness Chick incident?????

IG

Bump it up!!

I wish they would just legalize it with a doctor monitoring your progress and health. I mean what the F***!! You can have your face sliced up to look younger, your stomach and legs sucked out with a vaccum cleaner to look thinner and more attractive... All of which are cosmetic for self gratification. So why not steroids? General anasthetic has been proven to be more dangerous to your health than Roids!!!

arrrgggghhhhh!!!! Just my 2cents.

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Unite the brothers of iron

I would list all information you have about this guy, and SSMAN, names, email addy's, location, and lets see if we have some bro's in the area to pay them a private business session, you would be suprised how quick people act when they have our "neighbors" knocking on thier door.

Sorry this had to happen to you bro,
WCP

Hey BSJOHNSON tell me how much money you lost
so I wont pay SSMAN'S mother for the sex and
blowjobs she gave me and my CHI-TOWN brothers. Dirty fucking crack whore!

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"As time goes on we keep getting BIGGER,STRONGER,ANGRIER; and they keep getting smaller and weaker".
-Roy D. Rage

You did all the right things....sometimes in The Game...you still get burned!!

I have too Bro....Get wiser, and stronger...Hat's off to ya for handling it the right way!!!!

I wish they would all die!!!

DIE YOU BITCHES!!!!! DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!