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nutrimuscle

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posted October 24, 2000 09:21 PM

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Besides melatonin and valerian, can anyone recommend a sleep inducer? I have GBL but dont want to waste it all for sleep matters. Im having trouble sleeping on my cycle.


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liltank

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posted October 24, 2000 09:23 PM

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ambien, zanax, valium are good for sleep remember the juice will effect your sleep ( restlessness etc)


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ulter

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posted October 24, 2000 09:27 PM

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nutrimuscle if you mean script ambien will put you out cold. But if you want something a little less powerful that has no hangover effect at all aks for "Doral". 15mg


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Hoss

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posted October 24, 2000 09:27 PM

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Diphenhydramine(Benadryl) works for me...don't take too much or you'll be dragging your ass most the next day

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Pi Kappa Phi

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posted October 24, 2000 09:30 PM

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get some unisom bro, that shit will put your ass out.


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xcajx

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posted October 24, 2000 09:31 PM

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Do NOT start taking Valium and especially Xanax. They are highly addictive and getting off them is a bitch. They can induce panic attacks and physical illness if your body becomes attenuated to them. Xanax is sold on the street as a "party" drug and although it does get you messed up the coming down process isnt worth it.


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liltank

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posted October 24, 2000 09:34 PM

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xc,

i will have to disagree with you. WHile benzos are addictive,they are not addictive unless abused and taken over a long period of time...


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Jackle

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posted October 24, 2000 09:35 PM

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Deal with it. Dont get used to modifying your sleep patterns with additional drugs. Your livers got enough to handle. Not to mention supplements like melatonin etc can alter multiple neural pathways that Im sure your not aware of. Furthermore,your body will build up a tolerence to them and soon they wont work for shit. Make sure not to cat nap in the day as well.


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xcajx

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posted October 24, 2000 09:42 PM

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If you use drugs to help you sleep you WILL become dependant on them especially the benzodiazepams. plain and simple. Its a question of how badly you become dependent on them. The crappy thing about them is the half-life of a benzo is about 3 days...mening they max build up of the drug actually grows upon itself when it reaches a maximum blood plasma level. Unfortunately, by this point the body has also begun attenuation. So you have to take more and more to get the same effects. When you try to go off you can't sleep at all.
How do I know this? Addiction. I'm trying to help anyone else who may be making the same mistakes I did. Sorry to be so paranoid.


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quenepo

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posted October 24, 2000 09:45 PM

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a shot of Tequila.

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nutrimuscle

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posted October 24, 2000 10:09 PM

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Bump for more comments


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blackhaus1

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posted October 24, 2000 10:13 PM

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A couple of teaspoons of ghb work well.

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Decaman

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posted October 24, 2000 10:21 PM

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That was me by the way( see above) She keeps using my damn computer.

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animal B

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posted October 24, 2000 10:32 PM

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well looking at that little girly above wont help me sleep..but 2 1mg tabs of royphonol does the job


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dboxer911

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posted October 24, 2000 11:06 PM

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definately go with the ambien..ull need a script but it not hard to obtain from a doc as is valium and xanex


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Bam Bam

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posted October 24, 2000 11:30 PM

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due my wife sometimes takes ambium and she feels like shit the next day..I would recommend something else..BamBam


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thefantom1

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posted October 25, 2000 12:27 AM

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My doc prescribed me Xanax 1mg pills.. the purple ones about a year and a half ago for sleep problems...The first time I took one it was about 9 o'clock and by 9:45 I was messed up and went to sleep...after that I only took half a tab to help me sleep... Now lately I have to take one at night to sleep through the night....and I don't drowsy anymore..and your body does develop a tolerance to it..I can have 4 or 5 beers pop a Xanax and keep drinking... Not good... So just be careful with whatever you choose and don't abuse it..I would like to learn more about this ambien (sp?) stuff...

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Primo57

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posted October 25, 2000 12:54 AM

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Try Sonata 10mg. For me it's a mental thing,
I just like knowing that I have something
around to make me sleep. But like previously said, use sleep aids in moderation, I'm currently at the point where
I have to take 20mg of diazepam just to
get 6 hours. I've taken up to 30mg of Melatonin...it's pretty bad, as you can see..but I'm working on it.


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KODIAK99

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posted October 25, 2000 12:55 AM

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Got to go with Jackle on this one bro. Why do you think I have so much time for this fucking board. I haven't slept in 6 weeks.


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b fold the truth

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posted October 25, 2000 01:33 AM

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A nice little screwdriver works really well. Just enough to help with the sleep that is.

B True


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Julez

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posted October 25, 2000 05:49 AM

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Promethazine (Phenagran, OTC medicine) works very very well. Non habit forming and good duration. Don't bother with Benzo's (Diazapam, Nitrazapam, Tamazepam, Lorazepam etc) they work for a short time and you build up a tolerance and depence. Zoplicone is probably the only exception (POM though).

Are you working too hard in the gym, this can sometimes cause restlessness. Some A'S's can do this (I find Primo does just this whereas Sust/Deca does makes me want to sleep 9+ hours!)

GHB is OK to use, I find Melatonin shite (although many sat it works).

Maybe your sleep pattern is disrupted so a short term sedative from your GP might re-establish this.

Hope you resolve your problem!

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jakethemus

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posted October 25, 2000 06:13 AM

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GHB works for me.
About 3 grams before bed and when I wake up 4 hours later another 2 grams. I feel great the next day.
Only use it occasionally though.


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LJ2

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posted October 25, 2000 10:16 AM

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like i've always said a little natural herb
(THC) does do the trick to many problems. also you will not become chemically addicted.
best of luck
LJ2


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nutrimuscle

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posted October 25, 2000 11:34 AM

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I decided to try unisom.
Holy shit, let me tell you. I still feel groggy this morning, although ive never slept that long for a long time! (10 hours). Does that shit lose its effectivness, and can you get addicted?
I took 50mg, next time ill take only 25mg. 50 is waaaay to much.


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roadruler

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posted October 25, 2000 11:41 AM

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LJ2 I agree.


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vdevil

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posted October 25, 2000 12:53 PM

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Remron is a type of anti-depressant, but it works wonder for insomnia.


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DYLAN

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posted October 25, 2000 01:03 PM

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I take 1mg Alprazolam (Xanax) and sleep like a baby straight through the night. I don't feel it the next day either.
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pittbull2

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posted October 25, 2000 01:39 PM

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If I take a 1mg xanax a night I feel groggy the next afternoon just about have to lay down between sets and Benadryl makes me feel a little better the next day I can weigh 195 when going to bed and take benadryl and i will wake up for the 150th time at 191 hmm dries me out does anyone else have that reaction to Benadryl? I will try Ambien next .


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TheBear

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posted October 25, 2000 01:53 PM

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Vdevil..I have also taken the Remeron, and it does cure insomnia better than anything else mentioned. It also makes you hungrier than shit too. Take 15-30mg of remeron and you will be out within an hour. But I dont know if i would recommend it strictly for an insomniac.

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