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ROIDRANGER

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posted October 24, 2000 05:59 PM

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winny orally 50mg ED
anadrol 2-3tabs daily(on a 2days on, 1day off routine)
fina 1- 1 1/2cc EOD

would like to know your thoughts on this stacked--how well theyll work together, and maybe thinking of throwing clen in there also.

not sure how many weeks yet, cause ill be following it up w/ a gram of test for at least 8weeks and would like to be on this around xmas time or shortly after.

any suggestions?????

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posted October 24, 2000 09:18 PM

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posted October 24, 2000 09:33 PM

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I don't get it, are you bulking or cutting or actually this looks much more like a powerlifters cycle.


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posted October 24, 2000 09:38 PM

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im not bulking till the test, so im pretty much going to be cutting--last time i took anadrol i ate real clean, got vascular and pretty lean.

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ROIDRANGER

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posted October 24, 2000 09:39 PM

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why is this overkill or wasting gear? let me know.

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Rugby

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posted October 24, 2000 09:47 PM

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I'm not sure but it looks like a cutting cycle to me... That's a really toxic stack. Make sure you load up on milk thistle, cranberry extract, and liv 52 if you can get your hands on some... Even if you are using winstrol, using 2 drugs that may inhibit progesteronic effects isnt a great idea... So if you start with some gyno, then you know to drop the drol. Also i would do the fina at 75mg every day. And taper down to 75mg eod the last 2 weeks. Also you are going to have a huge loss from the drol if you dont have a stronger base. Some testosterone would be ideal...Test prop ideally. Or if you can some primo. Or EQ... Definately add either prop, eq, or primo... Also remember to eat your clomid... Fina will cause your nat test to stop.


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ROIDRANGER

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posted October 24, 2000 10:06 PM

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alright rugby you might be getting me a little confused now.

i thought winny combats prog. effects that anadrol can give you.

wont a gram of test after this catch the drop off from the anadrol, or do i really need test during anadrol?

clomid is a given for me--i should have mentioned it.

and im curious why fina ED as opposed to EOD?

what about the clen also??


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posted October 24, 2000 10:34 PM

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up you go! bump.

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Crunch It !

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posted October 24, 2000 10:37 PM

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riod,
I'm doing
test 100mgs EOD
EQ 100mgs EOD
A-50 1 a day
Win 100mgs EOD
a little T3
taking in about 200 more grams of protien a day and already gained 6 lbs in 1 1/2 weeks
mostly water I think
my pumps are un belieivable
i just took 3 weeks off due to gutting a house and remodeling but i'll keep you informed how it goes
oh and also from what I gatherd before i did this cycle you always do a bombs with winstrol for that reason
I wouldn't go over two A-50"s a day I did it the other day and had some seriuos pains so I stick to one a day
tons of water with cranberry juice and tons of protien
I would run the test with everything and pop a nolva like ED or EOD or when you start to feel your nips get sensative
Mine started the other day felt kinda weird from my shirt, remember get Nolva first or you will look like BOB

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ROIDRANGER

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dont have any nolva, but plenty clomid. need to order alot of proviron or maybe a little arimidex dont know yet--will see. i think the clomid will be alright for now---agree or disagree??????

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posted October 24, 2000 11:03 PM

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i don't know about that one I wouldn't


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posted October 24, 2000 11:06 PM

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wouldnt what????????

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posted October 24, 2000 11:12 PM

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I wouldn't do clomid only, get nolvaadex or arimidex works wonders I've heard but I wouldn't go in it without having one of the two on hand. you might not get any sensations but if you take 2-3 tabs of a bombs, you are sure to get some big titties without the arimidex or nolva


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1Mistake

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posted October 24, 2000 11:18 PM

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I think this is toxic and you might lose lots of hair-Take precautions

J


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Rugby

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posted October 25, 2000 12:05 AM

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Winny does combat progesteronic sides... But two drugs that cause progesteronic side effects may over power the winny. As seen with deca and fina, there is a large case of gyno... Same with fina and anadrol... You do need clomid, proviron and arimidex are not needed however.


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susthead

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posted October 25, 2000 04:32 AM

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i know meny guys who use winny and a50 4 weeks out from a show its good for keeping strenth gets your red cell count up keeps you big and full take 1 comid every night i aromatizes heavy so youll need it i would forget the fina and go with injectable winny 50mg dailey and throw in some eq 400mg week


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hayesjones

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posted October 25, 2000 10:13 AM

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i would up the fina to 2cc's eod, (my first cycle of fina i did 1 and 1/4 eod) but the 2cc eod really gives a nice effect. I would would cut the anadrol dosage in half. I know winnie is an antipro, but......
Also,it will save your liver from being worked so hard. Fucking A, I would just scrap the anadol, sell it to someone and get some sus250

good luck


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rainhorn

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posted October 25, 2000 10:36 AM

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loose the anadrol and do some primo insted.


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ROIDRANGER

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should i just take the anadrol w/ a gram of test-- i never took gram of test before kinda of wanted to do the test only.

how about: winny orally 50mg/daily, fina 1 1/2cc EOD, and clen
then: aboms 2-3tabs and a gram of test--(8wks?)
or

winny and aboms(maybe clen)
then: gram of test and start fina half way thru test or at the end w/ maybe clen,eq
then: ill look into taking some dnp to clean out and loose some fat

guess im just looking for something a little different to play with??

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posted October 25, 2000 05:04 PM

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posted October 25, 2000 05:39 PM

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would cytadren be a good choice as a anti estrogen, instead of proviron or nolvadex??

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posted October 25, 2000 09:56 PM

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looks like ill bump this on fire.

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Rugby

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Dont listen to them... Keep the anadrol and winny and fina... add some test too... Thats a bad ass cycle... It's very similar to my stack: enanthate/winny/abombs/fina/primo/dbol... I'd either go with enanthate or sustenon at 1g... I like sust. at 1g... I just started with enanthate at 1g... I like it alot... The clomid should work fine, no need for proviron, keep the nolvadex on hand though... 1g of enanthate shouldnt aromatize with 50-100mg of clomid eod... About the drol, alot of people told me it wasn;t worth it... Then i talked to 5 different mods and they told me to go for it for 3 weeks, and then tack on some dbol for 3 weeks after the abombs,


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posted October 25, 2000 11:05 PM

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Say Bye Bye to your liver and hair! That cycle is too toxic for my taste. You might get great gains but in my opinion the sides would outweigh the good. Again, this is just my opinion.

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Rugby

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I probably wont end up doing the fina on my cycle, as i am scared that it will fuck my liver up badly... The enanthate shouldnt bother my liver... The drol will be really toxic to it... So i will take liv52 the 3 weeks i am taking drol.. the dbol should be fine and so should the winny, as i will be loading up on milk thistle... the primo isnt at high enough doses to mess with my hariline...

It;s one killer stack though... A friend of mine did this as a second cycle... Is first was 8 weeks of sustenon with 5 weeks of dbol.. After about week 4 he stopped making big gains. He gained 27lbs on the cycle, some a little fat, and put about 25lbs on his repping bench...

His second cycle got him 23 lbs off of the first 3 weeks of abombs... 8 which he lost in water after he quit taking... through the first 3 weeks, he put 20lbs on his bench press repping... weeks 3-6 on the dbol, he was up to 25lbs and added another 10 lbs to his rep bench... week 6-8 he put on another 5lbs on his bench and was up another 4 lbs... Weeks 8-10 resulted in no strength increase but gained about 3lbs more.After the cycle he lost about 4lbs and continued on primo... By the time he was on his bext cycle... He was up 7lbs in 6 weeks from the primo... I liked his results, so i am trying it for myself... He also got much fuller and harder...


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posted October 26, 2000 10:37 AM

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How much more help do you need ranger? Go for the abombs-winny-test-fina or maybe primo instead of the test...If you are afraid of your liver load up on milk thistle and get some liv52... Do the abombs for the first 3 weeks go 1-2-1 while taking 9 tabs of liv 52 a day. Do the winny after the abombs if you are injecting dont worry about the liver as much... If you are using tabs... Take 10 tabs of liv52 a day... You should be fine on the fina. If you are scared get cranberry extract and take 12 tabs of liv 52 a day. If you want to add some dbol in there, put it before the winny and after the drol for 3 weeks... So this is what your cycle would look like... Test at 750-1000mg/wk, or primo at 400-500mg/wk for 10 weeks. Drol 1-2-1 weeks 1-3, 9 tabs of liv 52 a day. Dbol-40mg/day w/ 10 tabs of liv 52, weeks 4-6... weeks 7-10 fina at 75-150mg eod... with winny at 50mg/day-50mgeod with 12 tabs of liv52. Liv52 is the best known liver protectant... It also increases liver values once they are already messed up. If you need to find some please contact me. As far as i know it is legal to buy.


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posted October 27, 2000 12:27 PM

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yeah drop me a line on that liv52, also i talking about taking winny/ drol/ fina same time then gram of test for 8wks...

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Hey rugby, drop me a line too on the liv52 at [email protected]
THanks bro,
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Hey bro,

Im on week #3:

enanthate 1200mg wk
anadrol 50mg ed
winstrol 25mg ed
fina 100mg eod
nolvadex 10mg ed
clomid 25mg ed
Humilin R/insulin 20+ iu ed

Wieght gain has been slow (10lbs) but Im eating clean and getting leaner and stronger while I gain. Im bumping my calories up next week.
Even at 25mg per day the winstrol is keeping my gyno at bay. With a good dose of test I can keep the anadrol dose lower. I may add some proviron to keep more test available in the blood (Ive heard this is very effective). Ill go six weeks like this and then drop the anadrol, WV and fina. Then next six weeks will be 1200+ mg test with 400+ mg equipose to solidify my gains.

WV/fina/test/anadrol will completely saturate your receptors. Just keep it to six weeks - then switch to a less toxic stack.

Hope this helps.


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ROIDRANGER...

what many are failing to recognize here is that not everyone reacts the same way to an androgen such as anadrol. i myself think it's good in my cutting cycles, as it helps me maintain my size and strength, and i drop it at the 6 weeks out mark from competition...then stick with fina, arimidex, winny, primo, etc

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posted October 27, 2000 10:02 PM

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ive only took anadrol once about 40 tabs, needed some strength back, ate real clean and was pretty damn cut and vascular after drol, went thru 10 testo amps, 1 every 3 days and that was it put 9lb on kept 6lbs--i was happy.
thats why i was gonna tighten up now w/fina/anadrol/winny, hammer the test, then tighten up again(eq + ...)--i know my receptors are gonna be saturated thats why i will look into dnp for cleaning out right after the test before cutting again, but i will need more info and some help about the dnp.

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roidranger, how did you get around the water-retention issue? If I used A-50 while cutting I'd still look bloated...


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i ate real clean, mostly protein and lower calories, i was suprised also, but reminded how powerful a cutting drug anadrol is.

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