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jarabbit

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posted October 24, 2000 05:01 PM

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Now I'm not saying pizza is good for you if you are cutting or even bulking for that matter. But does a couple of slices really hurt your diet especially if you soak up all that oil with a napkin, by the way anyone know how much saturated fat you can get off a slice by soaking it up? My guess is a few grams. Anyway girlfriend says pizza isn't that bad for you. She says you get protein in the cheese, sauce is good for you, and the bread are your carbs, fat is in the cheese. All in all a balanced meal. I'm not saying eat a pie but how about 2 slices lets say once a week? Also if given the choice between a normal fast food burger or a slice which is better for the dieter?


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DYLAN

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posted October 24, 2000 05:06 PM

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I stay away from pizza. Haven't had a slice in years. It is one of the worst foods for you, IMO. All that cheese, dough, grease. That and fried mozzarella sticks.
But a slice once in a while ain't gonna kill you I guess.
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pillboy

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posted October 24, 2000 05:06 PM

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If you are bulking up pizza is great. Think about all the calories, protein, carbs that are in it. During my bulking cycles I would eat a large pizza once or twice a week. I wont touch the stuff while cutting up!!


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timac

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posted October 24, 2000 05:11 PM

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pizza is the greatest food ever invented. eat it all the time can't stay away...except when cutting...


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Green

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posted October 24, 2000 06:24 PM

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Great for bulking but fat boys like me gain a pound just smelling the damn thing. Pizza is a no-no for me but damn it's good. LAter, Green


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Omega44

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posted October 24, 2000 06:32 PM

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ya man i used to work for Pizza Hut, and when i was on my bulking cycles! I ATE PIZZAS EVERYDAY! fuck i got huge, lol but a little fat too, but that shits AMAZING for bulking, but for cutting, i wouldnt even come CLOSE TO IT!


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E2

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posted October 24, 2000 06:37 PM

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Pizza is ANABOLIC i tell you, it's just as good as 500mg of test!!!! It's incredible i eat a large pizza every two day, it's great for ya, make sure there's lots of bacon and pepperoni on it though, they're really anabolic!!!!

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bb4424

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posted October 24, 2000 06:41 PM

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Pizza is absolutely good for you. There are a lot of small no-fat, low carb, small muscle body builders...they are in a chronic state of overttraining and malnourishment...eat 2 pizza's a month, they are very anabolic!


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Slopain

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posted October 24, 2000 06:44 PM

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My last cycle was like this:

500mg sus250
500mg deca
300mg winny

instead I dropped the deca and added in pizza it went like this:

500mg sus250
5 pizzas/wk
300mg winny

I know I gained more LBM because of the switch from deca to pizza.

Slopain


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Hacker

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posted October 24, 2000 06:51 PM

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LOL!!!


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Stan O'Zolol

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posted October 24, 2000 07:00 PM

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Slopain, I understand what you are saying. Pizza and Deca are practically interchangeable. I did a pizza only cycle and ended up with 'Pizza Dick'. If I had taken my anchovies I would have been fine.


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bb4424

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posted October 24, 2000 08:35 PM

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I may try the sus/dbol/pizza cycle this winter...


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MONSTROSITY

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posted October 24, 2000 08:57 PM

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ATTACK THE PIZZA !!!!!!! Like your life depended on it.


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d1734

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posted October 24, 2000 09:03 PM

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pizza from restuarants is terrible for you. the bread is white bread which = crap. the cheese is high fat shit which is crap. the sauce is healthy, i will say that.

if you want a healthy pizza, make it yourself. i made one that tasted pretty damn good and had almost no fat. the crust was wheat flour, skim milk, and sucralose. i used healthy choice cheese (1g fat and actually melts!!) and sauce. added some 4% fat beef for the topping. honestly its good, try it sometime.


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el cubano

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posted October 24, 2000 09:09 PM

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Pizza is NOT all that bad. What other food incorporates all 4 food groups into one? Just stay away from greasy pizza or pizza with fattening toppings and you'll be fine! Plus, most mozzarella cheeses are low in fat and high in whey protein. But then again most pizza places use the cheapest mozzrella they can find.

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MONSTROSITY

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posted October 24, 2000 09:19 PM

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To make a pizza without fat is to have sex without blowing your load. WHY?? A no fat diet is garbage and about as anabolic as a chalice of regurgitated chewing tobacco. Most of the weak people that frequent our gym subscribe to the "NO FAT DIET." If they are proof of it's efficacy then they migh tbe better suited in Ethiopia. LONG LIVE PIZZA, AND THE VIKINGS THAT FEAST UPON IT!


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d1734

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posted October 24, 2000 09:22 PM

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i agree that low fat while clean is a bad idea, but when on the juice many of the reasons for eating fat are taken care of. anyway thats my theory. ill let you guys know how my <10% fat 6500 calorie diet works.

but im surprised with some of these answers. saturated fat can cause insulin resistence and is also much more likely to be stored as fat than either mono or polyunsaturated fats. white bread has a very high GI and is totally devoid of nutritional value (empty calories). take a look at the back of some standard mozeralla (not reduced fat) when your at the grocery store. it ain't pretty.

[This message has been edited by d1734 (edited October 24, 2000).]


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Hoss

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posted October 24, 2000 09:30 PM

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Eat the pizza!!!!! best bulker around.

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ThePitbull

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posted October 24, 2000 09:41 PM

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Can someone hook me up with a good pizza source for my next cycle.
E2, Slopain???

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nhbking

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posted October 24, 2000 09:54 PM

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can anyone find me a clomid source for this horrible case of pizza dick?


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Spunky

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posted October 24, 2000 10:01 PM

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Pizza is wonderful.. I like em thick crust with everything but fish heads... yum yum.. i'll take a large to myself!


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Bubba

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posted October 24, 2000 10:09 PM

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Pizza RULEZ! We have a place here in town that makes a bitching X-large pizza for $7.00 CND and they don't use the cheap cheese.


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ROIDRANGER

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posted October 24, 2000 10:20 PM

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fuck yall got me ordering a pizza right now!

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samiam

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posted October 24, 2000 10:20 PM

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I love this board.


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Steel27

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posted October 24, 2000 10:30 PM

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Pizza is a definate part of my bulking cycle. A little extra fat won't kill you.


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Shredder21

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posted October 24, 2000 10:35 PM

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I read in the new issue of Flex that Jeff Long, NPC National Middleweight Champion, stated that pizza was "one of the best foods to eat if you're young because it provides your body with protein and complex carbs". He further went on to say that "young people have a faster metabolism and burnoff excess calories, so as long as they have a butt-kicking program and are getting enough sleep, they can afford to eat pizza. It won't make you fatter, it will make you bigger". Hope that helps some bro.

Shredd


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d1734

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posted October 24, 2000 10:38 PM

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maltodextrin is a complex carb too, and other than post workout will go along way towards making you a lard ass.

this isn't rocket science, if you cant see that a pizza hut pizza isnt healthy what are you doing using steroids?


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Tomo

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posted October 24, 2000 10:42 PM

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Chicago style deep dish is best. Lou Malnatis
(one of chicagos best) has a low fat cheese pizza and no one wou;ld ever know--its thst good. Anyway, e-mail me and ill turn you on to my Malnatis source. They ship across the country I believe. Long Live Pizza-Tomo


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kram696969

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posted October 24, 2000 10:47 PM

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i love pizza

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jarabbit

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posted October 25, 2000 12:29 AM

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The pizza calzone cycle I did this summer was the best cutting cycle I have ever done!


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KODIAK99

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posted October 25, 2000 12:54 AM

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Love it, but does add a lot of fat.


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B_Funk

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posted October 25, 2000 12:57 AM

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I want pizza!

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WCP

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Would you pussies quit being so afraid of food!!!

When I bulk I can down 2 pizzas a weekend...as long as I get everything else I need in, then I eat what I want, when I want, well with the exception of nailing a large supreme right before bed.

If you diet low enough, a little extra fat wont show much, nor affect you that much.

Sorry but I love to eat, and I eat, and when I eat I grow!!!

Personally though..I would take a couple of BK Big Fish sandwiches ..thats been my newest weakness.

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youngdeltman

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posted October 25, 2000 07:20 AM

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I love the Shit. It's got a bit of everything in it-protine, carbs fat the lot. Some of you guys will inject 2grams of test into yourself but wont eat a pizza because it's bad for you, come on.


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back2basics

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posted October 25, 2000 08:28 AM

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I am a bit hungry now...back in 10 mnts!!!

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jarabbit

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posted October 25, 2000 09:28 AM

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Had 4 slices 2 hours before workout and had tons of energy last night at gym.


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hayesjones

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posted October 25, 2000 09:29 AM

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take your fina and you can eat as much fucking pizza as you want!


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rainhorn

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posted October 25, 2000 09:40 AM

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pizza is great PERIOD.


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EXerTION

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posted October 25, 2000 11:44 AM

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GOTTA SAY I LOVE PIZZA...CAN ORDER A LARGE FOR $5.99 AT PAPA J0HNS. (ONE OF THOSE ADVANTAGES LIVING ON-CAMPUS)!!!


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madseasn

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hey man.. might as well enjoy a few pieces every now and then.... i never eat junk.. my roomate and i have about the same diet and we eat pretty clean throughout the day... but every night before he goes to be he eats a large pizza with breadsticks.. and sometimes hotwings with it... the funny thing is.. his bodyfat is lower than mine... maybe i need to get a little more fat in my diet... it's worth a try


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thermo

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posted October 25, 2000 02:11 PM

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i wonder whats the side effects from pizza


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DREXX

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posted October 25, 2000 02:33 PM

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Mmmm Pizza!

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Decaman

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posted October 25, 2000 03:21 PM

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Heh Heh, i like the pizza dick comments, funny shit, as for pizza and deca being interchangeable, that's not funny. I will never eat pizza, that is until it is cold in the refrigerator at 3 am, then i eat the whole fuckin pie if it is in there, this is only while bulking of course. PIZZA=GOOOOOOD

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HardCory

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posted October 25, 2000 03:38 PM

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i am 2 days out from the Eastern USA's and immediately upon leaving the contest i will begin my chicken calzone/enan/deca/a50/gh/insulin/donut/pizza cycle...
this cycle will allow you to achieve true hugeness.

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