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somec-

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posted October 24, 2000 11:56 AM

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I'm going to be posting my daily observations while on an 8-day DNP cycle that's starting today. I'm currently 6'4" at 242lbs with around 15-17% BF. I'm really struggling to decide between going with 400mg or 600mg each day, but will probably stick to 400mg as it is unseasonably warm in Ohio this week. I also don't want to miss any workouts this week as I'll be travelling out of town at the end of next week and I've also been having some incredible workouts despite being "off". I've got enough DNP to do another longer and/or higher dosage cycle later on. After reading Animal's manual, I'm also going to be supplementing the following each day: 3000mg Vitamin C, 3000mg Taurine, 1500mg Magnesium, 1000mg calcium, 1 multi-vitamin (Centrum+iron), 3mg Melatonin before bed to help with sleep. I'm skipping the glycerol and the pyruvate because it seems the cost outweighs the benefit, but I guess I'll find out. My diet will consist of high protein, moderate carbs, low fat for the duration, possibly with a carb loading day somewhere in the middle. I'll also be drinking 1 cup of coffee in the morning and as much water as I can throughout the day.

Since this is a lower dose cycle, my expecations aren't all that high. I'll be extremely pleased with a 10lb loss. I am planning on following this up with either a bulking Sust/Deca cycle or going with a cutting Fina/Winny cycle so I'm not too bloated for the holidays, haven't quite decided yet but all the gear is on-hand already. Also considering some type of combo of the above as Animal suggests sticking to non-aromatizing gear such as Fina and stacking it with a test immediately following a DNP cycle.

One money-saving tip that I should mention was that in researching all of these additional vitamins and supplements, I found that Drugstore.com had by far the cheapest prices on the net, and the local Phar-Mor was in most cases even cheaper, unless Drugstore.com had a sale on a particular item (the Melatonin for instance was $2.22 for 2 bottles but was over $6 at Phar-Mor). I wasn't worried about brandnames at all, just the contents of the bottles. I even found L-Glutamine powder cheaper at Phar-Mar than I can find anywhere online, even at DPSnutrition.com.

Day 1: 242lbs, approx 15-17% BF (will measure this evening). Will also take body temp this evening. Took 1 200mg cap this morning, will be taking another 200mg cap this evening following my back/shoulder workout. Woke up a little warmer than normal, it's unseasonably warm in Ohio and I was warm prior to my first DNP cap so today won't be a good day to determine effects of the DNP. I normally feel crappy in the morning before I take a dump and before I get a cup of coffee in me, but I felt particularly crappy an hour after the DNP. Most people don't start feeling the DNP for 2 days, so I'm not expecting it to kick in just yet. This morning was probably more of the "placebo effect" than anything as I was a bit nervous about popping this pill in my mouth after seeing that the box that the DNP was in had turned yellow despite the DNP being in a fairly thick plastic baggie. Will post again tomorrow, not expecting much today.

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Rugby

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posted October 24, 2000 11:57 AM

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I would start with 600mg for 3 days, then 400mg for the rest.... I am getting ready to do a 14 day cycle of it


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bigrand

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posted October 24, 2000 05:53 PM

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Rugby is Absolutly correct. A higher dose first gets the ATP stores depleted faster and the 400 will maintain uncoupling throughout. Its good to run the cycle 12-14 days. Any longer might be too much, shorter wont give enough time to burn fat because it takes a few days to get to the point of hardcore fat burning.


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somec-

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posted October 25, 2000 09:12 AM

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Day 1, PM: after reading through the A-manual again, going through old DNP posts on various boards, and getting some feedback I've decided to bump up the dosage to 600mg for the first 3 days and going down to 400mg/day for the remaining 5 days. This should kick the fat-burning into gear sooner and work better with this shorter cycle. Took another 200mg tab prior to my evening workout and another about an hour before bed. Was feeling sluggish during my workout but worked hard to hit my normal poundages. I did drop from my typical 4 sets to 3 for each exercise, but mostly because I was short on time and the gym was packed. Towards the end of the workout my head was dripping with sweat, much more than normal, but I wasn't particularly uncomfortable. Didn't feel any warmer than normal the rest of the night. I really sucked down the water all day long, and whenever I had even a 10 minute break between refills my mouth was really dry. Drank much more water overall than normal.

Day 2, AM: weight 240lbs. Awoke for my typical middle of the night piss and found that my pillow was fairly sweaty and my legs were sweating as well. A sweaty pillow isn't too abnormal for me, but the leg thing is something new. No problems getting back to sleep, though. Really had a hard time waking up this morning, possibly the Melatonin is starting to work, this is only the second day I've taken it so I can't really tell. My morning weigh-in shows I lost 2 pounds in the last 24 hours. This was probably water weight as I've been pissing much more than normal with the increase in water intake. I'm actually feeling much better than yesterday morning. The expected sweating and heat increase hasn't kicked in yet, although I am getting occasional "hot flashes". I can't find my damn thermometer anywhere, so I can't take my body temp until I get another. My morning dump came much earlier than normal, hopefully this isn't the onset of the diarrhea that "msg" experienced, I want nothing to do with "poopy pads". No workout planned for today, probably just take the dog and wife for a couple mile walk this evening. Pleased with the experience so far, although this might be the last day before hell.


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hooch

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posted October 27, 2000 09:31 PM

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This guy still alive??????????


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Badkins21

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posted October 27, 2000 09:51 PM

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Like I said on X-man's board bro, A BIG THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ARTICULATION!!!

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somec-

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posted October 27, 2000 10:55 PM

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Yep, still alive. Been posting it over at XMan's but fell behind here.

Day 2, PM: hot flashes continued all afternoon, really wasn't bad at all, no profuse sweating, etc. Wife did comment that I had beads of sweat over my lip when I got home. Took 1 200mg tab at 5:30 and the 3rd tab of the day at 10:30. Took a 2 mile walk, got a little winded fairly quickly and a little warmer than normal but nothing too bad. An odd thing I've noticed is that I actually get a little cold about a half hour after taking a cap or 2 of Taurine, which doesn't make much sense since I didn't think Taurine had much of an effect on body temp. The Melatonin is putting me right to sleep about 20 minutes after taking it. I can't even make it through half of the 11PM Seinfeld rerun, whereas I normally catch it all and part of Letterman.

Day 3, AM: 240lbs. A little easier waking up today, but still felt pretty sleepy. I had awaken several times during the night and noticed I was pretty warm and sweating on the sheets and pillow. I didn't have much trouble getting back to sleep each time and eventually threw the blankets over to my wife's side. She's like most women in that she's cold whenever the temp is below 80, so I have to fight to get the window opened at night even a crack. Weigh-in shows I'm still at 240lbs, which was expected. From the research I've done, weight-loss normally doesn't start until after the 3rd day, and some people don't even lose much until a few days after the DNP stops. I really was expecting the worst today, especially considering it's about 15 degrees above normal today, but so far I actually feel better than I have the past 2 days. I am a little warmer than normal but no profuse sweating. I was planning on today being the last day at 600mg, but I might stay at 600mg until I get a day where I feel awful, and then drop down to 400mg. It's still early in the cycle and things can change quickly, so I'll play it by ear. Shoulder/Tri workout planned for tonight since I changed to a Back/Bi workout on Tuesday. Shoulders and tris were still a little sore from the Sunday chest workout, so I gave them a little longer break this week.


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Day 3, PM: I tried an experiment today. I cut off my water intake for 3 hours so I could to see what effect my increased water intake is really having. About an hour into the experiment, I started getting quite warm. My palms were visibly sweaty, my pants were damp just sitting in my office chair (thankfully wasn't visible), and I was generally uncomfortable. At the 3 hour mark I filled my 615mL water bottle, and by the time I had drank half of it I was already cooled down. Could it be the massive amounts of water I'm drinking that has been keeping me from the typical overheat that DNP users experience? After getting back to my normal water schedule, I felt fine the rest of the afternoon. I was again a bit warm when I got home after sitting in traffic for 40 minutes, but by the time I headed to the gym I was feeling fine. I took a 200mg DNP cap an hour prior to my evening workout, and another at 10:30. Today was shoulder/tri day, and I had a pretty good workout. I wasn't feeling abnormally fatigued and wasn't too much hotter than normal. I tried to make a few extra trips to the water fountain to keep myself hydrated. I was unusually hungry at my post-workout dinner, so I had an extra chicken breast. By the time it was time to go to bed, I was quite warm. It was 68 degrees at 11PM, and I discovered the wife had closed all the windows on the bedroom level, so I opened a few up and ignored her complaints. Women just don't seem to realize that it is easier to warm yourself up than it is to cool yourself down, especially in bed.

Day 4, AM: 240lbs. I overslept by about 5 minutes, but had no problems getting up. I had a restless night of sleep, same level of sweating I've been having the past few nights. I don't feel particularly tired this morning. Bathroom schedule is finally back to normal, thankfully no diarrhea. I haven't noticed an abnormal urine color, no discolored sweat that I've noticed, I don't think I smell any differently, and no rashes. I would be wondering if I had some bunk DNP if it wasn't for the increased body heat and the fact that the box that the DNP bag is in is turning more yellow by the day. My source is very legit, so not really concerned. Still at same weight, not worried or disappointed yet. Looking in the mirror I see a little more definition in certain areas, but we all know what tricks our eyes can play. Aside from being a little warmer this morning (then again I haven't had any water for the past hour), I am feeling pretty normal. No workout planned for today, leg day is tomorrow and chest/traps on Sunday. Nothing major planned for the weekend, so I shouldn't have any problems staying comfortable.
UPDATE: after going about 1hr 15min between water refills this morning I was very warm, forehead was wet, hands were soaked. Once again, after drinking about 300mL of cold water I was fine. I'm beginning to see a pattern


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