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mr.cobra

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posted October 23, 2000 12:31 PM

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I'm 23 and have been training for about 4.5 years. I am up to 180 lbs.(at 5'11") from a starting weight of about 142 lbs. I have had a lot of trouble gaining in the past six months and was wondering how long someone should wait for thier "genetic potential" before starting AS. I have been researching and thinking about starting for the last six months. I guess I am looking for how long you guys trained naturally before you went with AS. I think I am ready, just looking for opinions.


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BIG HURT

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posted October 23, 2000 12:39 PM

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That seems about an ample enough time of base(natural) trainig under your belt.I waited for a little over 2 years and then,I was only seventeen.I would say go for it now.A nice test/deca/stack would be good.Maybe even throw in some d-bol

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storm

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posted October 23, 2000 01:14 PM

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Bro,Your situation is identical to mine when I was debating. 4.5yrs I a long time and if you have trained hard and properly you have come pretty close to hitting a plateau. For us hard weight gainners it is frustrating to get on the scale day in and day out without any consistency. Bro you say you have done your research thats more than I can say I did before my first cycle. I had fantastic gains so I'm sure if you are knowledgeable it is a great time to go for it. Good luck Bro.


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mr.cobra

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posted October 23, 2000 04:10 PM

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Well judging by replies I think I am on the right track and ready to take the plunge! Now I just have to be patient and take my time. Any advice from guys who wished they could do theor first cycle over again knowing then what you know now. I want to be TOTALLY prepared.


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benzo27

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posted October 23, 2000 04:13 PM

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I am in the same boat you are I'm 27 and been hitting it hard for about 5 years and I am about to do my first cycle in a couple of months.


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b fold the truth

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posted October 23, 2000 06:04 PM

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Still believe in trying it the old fashioned way. Anyway...you are wanting to become a monster? If so...I would try eating about 3lbs of ground beef a day plus everything that you can get your hands on for about 4 weeks. Eat like you are on a cycle, without reguard if you are getting fat or bloated. See what kind of gains that you get from that. If you get very very small or none, then it is time to try AAS.

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mr.cobra

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posted October 23, 2000 07:09 PM

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Personally I am tired of trying every different twist on a routine to try to milk gains out of it. Different diets,training splits,more rest, less rest, and too much money wasted on supplements. I think I have paid my dues in the natural scene and I now want to put my money to some good use for once. Man, if I could get back all the money I wasted on supplements....hell, I even bought HMB!!!


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storm

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posted October 23, 2000 07:22 PM

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If you only knew how much phosphagen by EAS I've bought. Hey, it was good stuff there for a while. But what until you experience a cycle. Give me chills thinking of the differance.


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mr.cobra

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posted October 23, 2000 09:17 PM

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bump


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Painkiller

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posted October 23, 2000 09:35 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by mr.cobra:
I'm 23 and have been training for about 4.5 years. I am up to 180 lbs.(at 5'11") from a starting weight of about 142 lbs. I have had a lot of trouble gaining in the past six months and was wondering how long someone should wait for thier "genetic potential" before starting AS. I have been researching and thinking about starting for the last six months. I guess I am looking for how long you guys trained naturally before you went with AS. I think I am ready, just looking for opinions.

Looks like you have done your homework, so I don't see why you can't...

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pinks

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posted October 23, 2000 09:37 PM

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Well, I took 2 amps of sustanon per week for 7 weeks and gained 10 pounds, I didn't like it I was planning more weeks but instead chose to take a while off and hit a hardcore cycle. Just remember, don't get so pumped and expect 40 pounds of muscle or anything. But if I were you, I would go with what 1 said above there. Take testosterone and dbols and maybe even deca or Equipoise. BUT do the dbols, any first timer needs it because they will grow from it and not be dissappointed


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mr.cobra

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posted October 23, 2000 10:06 PM

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Pinks,
I was planning on an 8 week cycle of sust and deca. Do you think I should drop the deca for d-bol, or maybe through the d-bol in the mix with the other two? I am looking for about 15 solid lbs. that I will be able to keep after the cycle. Any input/ideas on this cycle?


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b fold the truth

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posted October 24, 2000 12:36 AM

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180lbs? I assume that you are extremely lean. If so, then I understand. I weigh close to 290lbs and never did anything till I weighed in the 270 range. I have never been concerned with being lean. If this is your goal and you weigh 180 and are lean...then go for it.

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barney

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posted October 24, 2000 01:18 AM

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hey pinks, that seems like a lot of sus for such little gains, did u forget to eat or something?


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KODIAK99

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posted October 24, 2000 01:28 AM

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First Cycle!!!!!!For the Last Time!!!!!!

Week Dbol Sust 250 Decca
1 25mg 250 0
2 30mg 250 0
3 35mg 250 0
4 35mg 250 0
5 25mg 500 200
6 0 500 200
7 0 500 300
8 0 500 300
9 0 0 200
10 0 0 200
11 Clomid 50EOD
12 Clomid 50ED
13 Clomid 50EOD
********* Have at least 25 Nalvo on hand
Go to the gym
Lift hard and heavy
Eat like you've never eaten before

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If you are going to be a bear. . .be a big fucking bear!!!!!


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barney

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posted October 24, 2000 01:44 AM

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hey pinks, that seems like a lot of sus for such little gains, did u forget to eat or something?


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rainhorn

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posted October 24, 2000 10:08 AM

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if you think your got to your genetic potensial that the time .


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mr.cobra

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posted October 24, 2000 07:27 PM

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let's bump this one more time


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