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KINGKONG69

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posted October 23, 2000 10:27 AM

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Is there any benifit for me to do a cuting cycle. im 24% bodyfat, 6', 225lbs, and i cant seem to loose the fat.
i just tried clen, was only on for 2 weeks strait, was gonna do 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off, then on again, but i have gained 2-3 lbs in the last 2 weeks, so i decided to quit with the clen.
i took 5 tabs a day, i didnt do a strict low calorie diet, but i ate really clean, and i did 3-4 days a week of cardio, for 45minutes a day, and lifted heavy on those days also, but only gained weight.
i wanted to drop my body fat, then go on my sus/deca/dbol cycle, and bulk up.
i have done searches on this subject, and cant get a strait answer, so what i want to know is if i would benifit from a cutting cycle.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted October 23, 2000 10:37 AM

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Personally I would go for T3, Clen and some as such as winstrol or dbol. Only use the as if you are worried about losing muscle as well as fat. Do the T3 for 3 wks and Clen 2 wks on 2 wks off for 10 wks, when you have 2 wks off on the clen use ECA stack. Should drop bf levels to 15-16%. E-mail me if ya want more info or doses etc.

Worked well for me.


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hayesjones

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posted October 23, 2000 10:39 AM

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you probably gained some muscle weight, so thats why the scale increased. Also, watch your diet. You should cycle normal calorie days with low calorie days to trick your body. Dont eat any carbs unless they are vegetables after 6pm.
With that much bodyfat I wouldnt do a sus cycle. A cutting cycle sounds good, but only cause you want to keep you body from going in to negative nitrogen balance on a low calorie diet


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wondertest

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posted October 23, 2000 10:50 AM

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I'm with HayesJ on this one. Except for the gear aspect. I agree that you probably gained muscle weight and are retaining water from the clen. Give your body a couple days to shed any extra water and try weighing yourself again.
Now as far as weighing yourself goes, don't do it. EVER. Not for like 6 months or even three months from the time you start to diet. Use a mirror for a gauge if you must but stay away from the scale. The scale confuses a lot of people and it can lead to negative thinking ie. "should I do a cutting cycle after dieting for two weeks and it not working". Get bodyfat done if you want to gauge it that way.
As far as gear goes stay away from it. Check it out bro I was 230 at approx. 28% at one time. Just by lifting (no cardio) and eating right I went to 205 with approx. 10%. Now I'm 240 with like 13%, but I'm bulking right now.
Here is the bad news it took me a full year to get from 230 to 205. But if you add cardio you'll drop weight much more quickly than I did. Also I did it totally clean, no eca, no clen, and no gear. So having the first two at yopur disposal will help tremendously too.
Save the gear for after you lose the weight bro. You don't need to lse the weight and shouldn't use it to lose the weight. The term "cutting cycle" doesn't apply to Jenny Craig type weight loss situations.


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bigmann245

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posted October 23, 2000 10:51 AM

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trust me man go for the Finaplix. it has done wonders for me and is cheap and readily available. you will gain some mass on it but thats not the whole reason for it. i used it for 4 months now only because i am still loseing weight. i was at 32% bodyfat but thats from the measuring of the neck and waiste and using a chart. i still use that method only because to get an acurate measure of bodyfat loss you have to do it the same way all the time. now im at 20% and just started a sust cycle of 500mg a week. i feel a whole lot better. trust me man Fina is the way to go.


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VEINS

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posted October 23, 2000 12:11 PM

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Give it time and remember to eat clean.Having said that, don't worry too much about throwing in a cheat day here and there.The t3 will take care of the fat from the junk food.


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KINGKONG69

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posted October 23, 2000 01:04 PM

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I APPRICATE YOUR HELP. IM GONNA DO SOME CHECKIN IN TO ABOUT FINA, AND ALSO THE DBOL, T-3, CLEN, CYCLE. I HAVE ALL MY GEAR SITTING THERE READY FOR MY BULKING CYCLE. BUT MAYBE ILL TRY A CUTING CYCLE FIRST. THANKS


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Donald Smoot

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posted October 23, 2000 02:30 PM

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You need disappline man.Eat 1500 calories a day and lift.Don't matter when you eat it,just stick to your calorie limit and lift.
Don't listen to the fat ass who's been on fina 4 months.Wait till he goes off.He's a loser with no testicles and will bloat big time as soon as he's off.
If A.S.was a substitute for long term dietary disappline they would be a hell of a lot more popular.Cutting cycles are for muscle moutains who are dieting for a show and need help keeping huge mass,or addicts that are on all the time anyway.
Don't be a loser with small balls.Diet down to sub 10% and then do a few short cycles once your natural lifting peaks to help you get more muscle.
Fuck the scale,it's meaningless.Go by a mourning tape measure on your belly.There is a good calculator at weights.net that will give you an idea on where you stand.
People that turn to drugs as a substitute for dietary and lifting will power are a blight on the sport.This is why A.S.is illeagal,trying to protect these lame asses from themselves.
Oh yeah,quit beer compleatly and try some e/c and water for partying.


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ajc

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posted October 23, 2000 03:35 PM

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Either...

1. Your diet sucks ass and you're not doing enough cardio.
2. Or you gained some muscle while on the clen and you are relying solely on the scale.

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rainhorn

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posted October 23, 2000 04:05 PM

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the best thing fro you is GH.
it will work mirecall on your body.


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KINGKONG69

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posted October 23, 2000 04:36 PM

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LIKE I SAID, MY DIET WAS CLEAN, ALL HEALTHY FOOD, LOTS OF CHICKEN, TUNA SANDWICHES, PEANUTBUTTER AND JELLY, SHIT LIKE THAT. CARDIO, I HATE, BUT DID IT ATLEAT 3 DAYS A WEEK, MOORE LIKE 4, FOR 30 MINUTES- AN HOUR.
IN MY OPINION, CLEN SUCK'S, FELT TIRED, AND JITTERY,AND JUST LIKE SHIT WHILE ON IT, TODAY MY FIRST DAY OFF, AND I FEEL GOOD. SO I DONT KNOW.


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c-dizzo

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posted October 23, 2000 04:40 PM

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man get the bodyfat down or off naturally, then get ahold of some winstrol, primobolan, deca, and some sustanon or primotest, oh and some equipoise, and some clenbuterol and you will be able to harden up the rest after you have dropped the bulk of fat naturally.


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greenhouse

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posted October 23, 2000 05:27 PM

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e-mail decaman he gave me a really good cutting cycle and he can really help with your diet and what not... Good luck I have been there it takes time... Are you depressed ever? Have you ever had your thyroid checked??? Think about it...


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pinks

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posted October 23, 2000 05:53 PM

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The only thing that is stopping you from losing fat is carbs, You need to eliminate all carbs and do a cutting cycle with T3 AND clen. As a matter of fact, if you are very serious, try DNP, lots of cardio, no carbs, and with other roids like fina/eq/winny


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b fold the truth

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posted October 23, 2000 06:00 PM

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Would only use fina if you are wanting to supplemet it with something like T3 or clen. Fina will increase muscle and very very slightly decrease body fat...from my personal experience.

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Rugby

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posted October 23, 2000 07:55 PM

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Hey Bro-
This is how you go from 24% bf to 8-10%... A friend of mine was at 21%bf and i hooked him up with a plan and he got down to 6% in 5 months.

-Start out with DNP... 3 days at 600mg, 11 days at 400mg..
-Wait one week
-Hit an 8 week cycle of fina at 75mg every day
-Don't wait at all and do clenbuterol at 100mg a day week 1, 120mg a day week2. Go off for 2 weeks. Then do it again. Take T3 as well.
-Get some 25+ or 125+ or some sort of ECA stack and do it for a month while using deca, winny, or primo...
-Repeat the DNP

There you have it, you will be one lean mofo


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LittleSavage34

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posted October 23, 2000 09:45 PM

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Fat guys like I used to be, benefit the most from good cardio and an effective fat burning stack. I would stick with Clen, T3 and ECA at the start. If you take T3, make sure you mix a non-aromitizing steroid like winny, etc. When you become a veteran, might try DNP.


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Zeacky

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posted October 23, 2000 10:07 PM

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This is going to be my next cycle if I don't lose too much hair in the process.

TBA: inject 75 mg ed for 7 weeks( I was going to do 75mg twice a day but E2 said I was crazy, what pussy E2 is....hehe
Clomid: 50 eod 7 weeks/100ed 3 weeks
Cytomel: taper up to 250 mcg down to 12.5 for 6 weeks.
Proscar: 1/2 a tab eod
Winstrol: 50 mg ed (to make sure I don't get any bitch tits)
Nizoral 2% once a day leave on for 10 min

E2 talked me out of 1050 mg of TBA per week

Stats
Age: 23
Weight: 257
BF: 16%
Height: 5 feet 9 inches

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