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1Banshee

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posted October 22, 2000 07:24 PM

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What is the saturation point of 1cc of oil?? I had heard no more than 250mg of test could be combined in 1cc of oil, is this true or false??


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Burnboy

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posted October 22, 2000 08:23 PM

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that is also what ive heard

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Vinny69

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posted October 22, 2000 08:34 PM

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i believe 250mg of test is the saturation rate of it because i dont know of any higher dosages than 250/cc

but....ttoyyko makes decca with 300mg/cc
they are both using the same oil but maybee because of the different compound being dissolved in it it can hold more deca...

why do u ask?

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thefantom1

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posted October 22, 2000 10:03 PM

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Banshee...you beat to the punch.. I was going to ask the same question....... What about this cyp that is suppossed to be 300 mg???

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Jackle

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posted October 22, 2000 10:38 PM

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It depends on the chemical composition of the solute. i.e. type of testosterone. Also depends on multiple physical properties. You can actually super saturate a solution by manipulation things such as temp, agitation, pressure and ph during prep. From a manufaturers standpoint 250 is propably the most cost efective and most typically used. But if needed Im sure more could be added.


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KODIAK99

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posted October 23, 2000 12:43 AM

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Jackle, PV=nRT. That should clear it up.


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1Banshee

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posted October 23, 2000 02:17 AM

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Thanks Bros... So it is possible to have 300mg of test in 1cc of oil, but it sounds like it is probably costly. Fantom this leads to the next question, yours???


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thefantom1

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posted October 23, 2000 02:28 AM

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Well the 300 mg of cyp is coming from one of our friends who makes his own stuff..Im sure the regulars know who I am talking about (hypothetically of course)..and as some of you know..My "friend" has only dealt with sust redi's and has never had to figure out for instance how many shots of say 500mg of sust he will get out of a 10ml bottle (he assumes 5 shots)..banshee and I got into a conversation about this 300 mg cyp and he brought it to my attention that from his knowledge 250 was about all that a cc or ml could contain... Please forgive me if I doesn't sound like I know what the hell im talking about because I really am kinda confused about 10ml or 10cc and all... Thanks for any enlightenment...

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momwarndu

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posted October 23, 2000 02:31 AM

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damn, could you imagine... "yeah, i just got some pre-loads of sustonon 1500 mg
, doin' 4 a week"


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GymRatSD

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posted October 23, 2000 02:45 AM

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Originally posted by KODIAK99:
Jackle, PV=nRT. That should clear it up.

PV = nRT is the law of gasses. It has NOTHING to do with OIL SOLUBILITY. Get some idea of what you're talking about before you start responding.

There are many factors involved in the amount of an anabolic can be dissolved in oil. In a very general sense, the longer the ester, the more that can be dissolved in pure oil. Then factors can be added or adjusted to increase this further, such as the addition of ethyl alcohol. Therefore, there is no absolute answer to this question.

Is it possible to make a 300 mg/ml nandrolone decanoate in oil? Yes. Is it possible to make a 300 mg/ml testosterone proprionate in oil? With the addition of some alcohol, more than likely.

So, instead of talking and responding with, "yeah, that's what I heard" or "I don't think it's possible", do some research first or get a chemistry degree. Stop talking out of your ass.

Sorry for the soapbox speech, but I'm sick of the useless responses.


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thefantom1

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posted October 23, 2000 02:58 AM

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Ok so what about the possibility of 300 mg of cyp???? And once again..let me show my limited knowledge here...say I happened to find a 10ml bottle of this cyp 300 mg...would I get 10..1cc shots of 300 mg of cyp??? God I hate to show my ignorance about this.....I feel almost like 2skinny....... :-)

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ironmaster

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posted October 23, 2000 04:30 AM

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The answer to your last question, 2ski, oops....fantom, is yes. J/K I don't have a chemistry degree, sorry gymrat, but I have experimented with fina kits in this way. I put 50% more fina in than the instructions call for, filtered the extra binders out with a coffee filter, than heated the mix 3 times at 250 degrees before running it through the syringe filter. Came out fine, no unsaturated content whatsoever, and very potent at 1cc eod in the stack I was using.


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thefantom1

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posted October 23, 2000 08:13 AM

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Ironmaster.... your first sentence had me craking up...confusing me with being 2damnnkthick (ha ha)..but the rest of your post bro seemed to be way off topic.... No flame bro..just didn't understand it... And I will get you for the 2skinny remark!!!! :-)

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GymRatSD

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posted October 23, 2000 11:54 AM

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Cypionate is one of the longer esters, making the testosterone and associated ester more non-polar and easier to dissolve in a non-polar liquid such as oil. So, yes, it would be possible to make a 300 mg/ml testosterone cypionate in oil.

Why is it not made? Generally pharmaceutical companies consider 100 or 200 mg/ml a therapeutic dose. It's not made for bodybuilding purposes.


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ironmaster

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posted October 23, 2000 05:49 PM

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Hey fantom, you are right. My answer does read kind of stupid - I figured you would call that a "luvs2juice" answer. HeHe. What I was trying to say was that I had no problem making a more concentrated solution of tren - the oil absorbed 50% more powder than it is supposed to. You have a good sense of humor, bro, and I always enjoy your posts.


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The Shadow

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posted October 23, 2000 06:22 PM

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300 mg for any ONE compound.


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thefantom1

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posted October 23, 2000 07:25 PM

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Ironmaster... now I understand what you were trying to say.. and Im glad someone here enjoys my sense of humor... :-)

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