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HugeForLife69

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posted October 20, 2000 09:14 PM

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Hey all, what do you reccommend for a first cycle, I was thinking of doing Sus 250, once a week for 10 weeks? Would this put on some good weight? I want to gain about 20-30lbs, everyone says your first cycle is awesome, What do you reccomend that I do....Thanx all, Please Email me or post in response

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MUSTANG_18

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posted October 20, 2000 09:31 PM

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HEY BRO. YOU COULD DO THE SUST AT 500mg/WEEK STRAIGHT THROUGH FOR 10 WEEKS AND ALSO ADD SOME DECA AT 400mg A WEEK IF YOU WANTED TO. ALSO DON'T FORGET THE CLOMID. GOOD LUCK ON YOUR CYCLE. BUMP FOR MORE INFO

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lawnsaver

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posted October 20, 2000 09:38 PM

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Stay away from test for your first. Do a deca winny cycle. Very safe, in the proper doses you can add 10 to 15 quality muscle. You need to walk before you run. In every cycle you do try to get as much quality as you can. The faster you grow the harder in is to keep your gains. IMHO


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The Ranger

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posted October 20, 2000 09:43 PM

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Well,
Not to take anything away from Lawnman....I think a Deca only, or Deca and Winny first cycle would leave you lacking...However, If you are prone to Progest. Gyno...adding the winny is a big plus..!!!

At least 500mg's of Sus 250 per week would yeild the gains you are seeking...of course all this hinges on your diet and traing...Post cycle Clomid is a must for gains, as well as throughout cycle>

You are correct in your assumption about the first cycle....!!

Ranger's advice, " Get huge & Train to Maintain! "


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lawnsaver

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posted October 20, 2000 09:51 PM

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Does a first time gear user have the patients and know how to come off properly to keep those rapid gains of test only?? You might be giving him advice because of your experiences, but what is the proper first cycle


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DREXX

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posted October 21, 2000 12:06 AM

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Sust at 500mg for 6-8 weeks is my advice!

Take clomid 1 eod if you are holding too much water or start getting gyno. But at that dose I doubt it.

14 days after your last shot start this:

Week 1 100mg Clomid / day
Week 2 50mg Clomid / day
Week 3 50mg Clomid / day

Probably good to load up on creatine and glutamine on the second week of recovery it will give you a little boost.

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Burnboy

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posted October 21, 2000 01:07 AM

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get some proviron, clomid barely helps with gyno in my opinion

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ghans

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posted October 21, 2000 02:22 AM

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Heed The Rangers advice. Your 20-30lb goal will most likely not be reached at 250mg sus per week. You will want to use 500mg sus per week and deca at 200-400mg per week and perhaps some dbol to kick start the first few weeks. Of course diet and training must be good. Use clomid brother!! Good luck.

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MR. BMJ

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posted October 21, 2000 04:00 AM

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Take advantage of your first cycle. You will not get gains like this ever again. In my mind, anything less than 800 to 1000 mg.'s of test. ( At least 50 mg. of D-bol per day in my mind should be added too) is a waist of your time. Learn the effects/side effects of the drugs before taking them, or do not take them at all. Learn how to come off them and diet and train right, before using them. Then, after this, take advantage of your first cycle and watch yourself grow. Do not ruin it with only 250 mg.'s.


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forgotten219

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posted October 21, 2000 04:41 AM

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I think the just 250mg of sus is too light. Make it 500mg/week or pyramid up to 500mg from 250 and back down again. Also stacking with some reforvit wouldnt hurt.


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Gettinhard

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posted October 21, 2000 07:27 AM

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Rangers advice is solid..1st cycle test is a must....I would do one of 2 things depemding upon your financial situation...

1..sus250 for 8 weeks at 500mg a week..

2.sus250 for 8 weeks at 500mgs and throw in either winny at 50mg EOD or primo at 400mg a week..

get some clomid and you will be in there...

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rainhorn

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posted October 21, 2000 08:30 AM

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you heard the ranger.


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Busy_Mind

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posted October 21, 2000 08:33 AM

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My reccommendation for your first cycle is:

Post your knowledge about gear, post your stats, and research some more! Other than that, double your original dosages(to the least), otherwise you most certainly won't be getting a true advantage out of your first cycle!

"Okay ready for first cycle" -well if it were that easy, hmm.


Just my cc's worth!

~BM~


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Painkiller

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posted October 21, 2000 10:08 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by lawnsaver:
Does a first time gear user have the patients and know how to come off properly to keep those rapid gains of test only?? You might be giving him advice because of your experiences, but what is the proper first cycle

testo will generally create more lean muscle mass than almost any other single steroid, but it will also give you more water retention than lots of other steroids, and it is the loss of this water at the end of the cycle that creates the illusion that you lose more "gains" off of a testo cycle than a milder primo or deca cycle.

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HugeForLife69

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posted October 21, 2000 07:41 PM

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Okay well I am 5'9 and half, I weigh 196.5 lbs and have about 12 to 13 % body fat...I eat like crazy and am going off a really big heavy build.......I want to get massive..let me know


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Cornellius

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posted October 22, 2000 02:43 AM

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I�M WITH lawnsaver. I�M DOING MY FIRST CYCLE RIGHT NOW. IT�S A DECA/WINNY ONE, AND THE RESULTS ARE AMAZING SO FAR. YOU CAN SEE MY UPDATE AT https://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/034548.html
LATER


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Daeo

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posted October 22, 2000 02:56 PM

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My first cycle was deca/dbol/primo. I gained 30lbs in that cycle. I'm actually glad I didn't start off with the sust for my first time.


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HugeForLife69

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posted October 22, 2000 06:29 PM

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Wrong way to ask Bro!!!!

E-mail me, or another Mod!!!

[This message has been edited by The Ranger (edited October 22, 2000).]


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