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moe dank

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posted October 20, 2000 10:23 AM

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did 500mgs for the first 8 and want to just do 250mgs a week for the next 6. Just wondering if anyone out there has done more than 8 weeks.

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Slopain

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posted October 20, 2000 11:11 AM

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Moe if your going ot extend the cycle keep it at 500 or jump up to 750. If you still want to grow, if you want to bridge or make sure your not going to lose any muscle go with equipoise and winny, it will harden you up and retain that muscle.

I will most likely be bridging or extending my current cycle (however i will switch from sus250 to aratest.) At that dosage, REALISTICALLY you can stay on straight through. Most of the BIG boys I talk to dont really cycle the time on=time off bs. They cycle toxics with less toxics, and switch up the AS's every 10-15 weeks or so.

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KODIAK99

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posted October 20, 2000 11:14 AM

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Got to agree with slopain, Its exactly what I am doing now, when my sust 500 mgs is done in 4 weeks I am going straight to winny and EQ for 8 more.


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moe dank

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posted October 20, 2000 11:49 AM

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well thats what i wanted to here. 500 it is.

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gearseeker

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posted October 20, 2000 11:56 AM

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I like cycling toxics/non-toxics like slopain mentioned. Test is one you can stay on for a LONG time if you dont have problems with sides. If gyno or other sides are a major problem its good to keep it short. I use test 12 weeks on/4 weeks off with a primobolan bridge in between. Ive seen guys stay on test for 4-5 months and make good steady progress. On a twelve week test cycle I use strong toxic gear for the first six weeks, then equipose for the last six. Every other 12 week test cycle will include a completely different stack of other drugs.

Long cycles kick ass.


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posted October 20, 2000 12:08 PM

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Hmmmm.... This one is interesting.

You can also bridge with primobolan for a non toxic drug.


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Slopain

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posted October 20, 2000 12:08 PM

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Moe, I know you know this but just in case, make sure you keep your clomid and nolva supplied, dont dip to low in case anything pops up with the extended cycle.

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moe dank

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posted October 20, 2000 12:21 PM

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yeah i have enough clomid to last but i havent seen any difference in my nipples at all. No soreness or puffyness either which really kicks ass cause that was really the only thing i was worried about.

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d1734

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posted October 20, 2000 12:34 PM

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aren't you guys concerned with problems getting the nuts working with these really long cycles?


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Slopain

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posted October 20, 2000 12:38 PM

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CLOMID. People stay on cycles year round, this cycling concept is very safe but its not the only way to do AS. People are a bit paranoid, they think if they go over 12 week cycles that everything will fall apart, thats just not the truth.

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d1734

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posted October 20, 2000 12:44 PM

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i've read a whole lot, including practically everything by Bill Roberts but i havn't heard as much about getting the balls running again. BR says the longer you go the more trouble you will have and getting off around 8 weeks is ideal (if you don't short cycle). how much longer does it take to get the balls running with clomid from say a 16 week cycle instead of an 8 week cycle?


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Slopain

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posted October 20, 2000 12:54 PM

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I really think it takes the same amount of time either way, it doesnt matter if its a 8 week cycle or a 40 week cycle. I am pretty sure that your nuts shut down the same, once they shut down at week 6-8 they dont shut down any deeper/more its like the glass is empty, it can't get emptier.

If you look around, many people on this board have stayed ON for a year. Its not uncommon at all. Agreed that most newbies (i dont mean this derrogatarilly) will cycle because they are being very safe, and thats the safest way to go, but those that have been in it for a while - from what I have noticed - dont adhere to some of those rules like time on = time off.

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d1734

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posted October 20, 2000 01:10 PM

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that makes sense. i mean the guys that are already 270+ lbs practically need gear to maintain, let alone grow. but for people new to juice i guess cycling makes the most sense. imagine a newbie staying on for 1 year straight. in theory he could easily put on 100 lbs of muscle, but i would have to believe the stretch marks and possible resistence to change by the body would be too much. then again, i might be wrong.


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