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d1734

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posted October 19, 2000 07:31 PM

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keep in mind this is the AMOUNT ACTIVE, NOT what i inject. (ex. wk1 i inject 800mg deca)
M = morning only

WK--Deca--Winny--Abomb--T3--Clomid--Sust
1---400---630----175----25--------------
2---400---630----175----25--------------
3---400---630----175----25--------------
4---400---490-----------25----350----300
5---400---490-----------25----100----150
6---200---490----175----25--------------
7---100---420----175----25--------------
8----50---420----175----25--------------
9---------350M----------------700-------
10--------280M----------------700-------
11--------140M----------------350-------
Recovery wks 9-11 - 40g glutamine, E/C/Y, creatine, the works.

made some minor changes. this is my first cycle, gonna start as soon as i get needles. the dosages are high but i feel this will be almost side effect free. the only thing i am concerned with are stretch marks from the incredible growth i will have. i am taking milk thistle 5x a day totaling about 500mg silymarin and 1gram milk thistle seed along with 1-2g ALA. calories will be around 5000-6500 (adjusted as needed). after this i will take 5 weeks off the juice and start a short cycle plan. i would do short cycles now but this is what i call my "fuck it all and get jacked NOW" cycle. let me know what you guys think, i put alot of thought into this one.

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d1734

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posted October 19, 2000 09:36 PM

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bump


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d1734

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posted October 20, 2000 03:38 AM

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comon guys help me here. to give you some info, i'm 5'10" 160 lbs @ 10% bf. after cycle i want to be around 190 lbs @ 8%. my specific questions:

1. should i just fuck the sust and run anadrol at 175 (25mg ED) throughout? (i cant raise winny to counter, this is my entire supply)

2. should i drop my dosages or leave them here considering my high expectations?


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Sharps

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posted October 20, 2000 04:24 AM

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I would drop the deca down a bit. After 400 mgs there really is not much of a difference, but if you have the money to spend then by all means go ahead, it is just for the amount of money you will spend the results are really not worth it after 400mgs


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d1734

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posted October 20, 2000 04:38 AM

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i never really go over 400 mg deca. that is the maximum amount active in my body at any 1 time.


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posted October 20, 2000 01:24 PM

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bump...huck or anyone else with first hand experience with a similar combo please give me your input.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted October 20, 2000 01:37 PM

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Running deca and anadrol at the same time is a progestogenic overload.I see that you're wisely throwing winny into the mix though,very smart idea,I just am not sure if its going to be able to counteract DUAL A/S with progestogenic characteristics at the same time.Also,why only two weeks of sust?


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posted October 20, 2000 01:42 PM

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sust is just 2 weeks because its all i got. thats why im considering not bothering. the logic was since the winny can't go any higher i would use sust instead of abombs until the deca begins to taper.

i know i got 2 progestrogenic roids in there but the mg amount of winny is always higher than deca + anadrol. you said yourself that only 25mg ED of winny countered 50mg ED of anadrol. the ratio of winny in my cycle is MUCH higher, seems it should be more than sufficient, but then again i don't have first hand experience with any of this.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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Well for a synergistic standpoint,this will be a very powerful cycle,as the deca exhibits very strong binding affinity to the A/R,whereas anadrol and winny work through seperate mechanisms.Try it out,and if the winny is strong enough to counteract any negative effects than take it all the way.If you start to develope gyno symptoms,drop the anadrol,as it will clear out of your system quickly.If anything,I would save the sust towards the end,to counteract any progesterone complications that might occur(deca-dick)but if no problems,then save it for another cycle.


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yea thats pretty much what i was thinking. the anadrol gives me great flexability with the cycle. thanks for the advice bro i appreciate it. if i get my pins this weekend i plan to start the fun on monday. this is gonna rock!


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted October 20, 2000 01:58 PM

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Feed those updates regularly,as I for one,will be highly interested on how this works.


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posted October 20, 2000 02:10 PM

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BEST OF LUCK MAN! Depending on what state you live in, you could probably just run into Wal-Mart and get all pins you need...if not, drop me an e-mail. I've got a site that I used that's cheap but I don't want to post it 'cause the bro that sent it to me said to keep it as quiet as possible, so they don't get flooded and start asking questions!!

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d1734

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posted October 20, 2000 02:15 PM

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i will definitely keep you guys updated. probably will post once a week updates after i have started. i will also take a before pic the day i start and then an after pic.

pins are illegal in my state i have some on the way, should be here anyday now.


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DYLAN

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posted October 20, 2000 02:29 PM

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I have a few questions:
Why even bother with two weeks of sust? And how are you coming up with those dosages? Sust comes in 250 mg/mL amps, how are you going to get 300 and 150?
Why bother with the T3?
You don't have to taper the deca all the way down to 50mgs.
D.


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posted October 20, 2000 02:41 PM

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ARGH!!! read it thoroughly! i wrote the amounts by how much is actually ACTIVE, NOT what i inject. i stop deca at 400mg in wk 5 and let it taper itself. the sust figures come from injecting monday and thursday, approx. 300mg will be released the first week, then 150 and it will taper to insignificant amounts after that. T3 speeds metobolism, more protein synthesis = more growth. faster metabolism while in supra-anabolic state = more fat burned.


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