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decibel

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posted October 19, 2000 03:01 PM

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that's what's in me right now, along with 200mg of equipoise. that's not too much is it? i'm also taking clomid and nolva.
i decided to up my dosages for a couple more weeks.


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Slopain

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posted October 19, 2000 03:23 PM

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Im not going to say its too much but its double what I got in me right now! heh How are the sides compared to a sub gram or gram dose? I imagine if your on sus or anything with the prop especially you fealt like shit the first week?

I doubt its too much, it certainly isnt a kid stack though.

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el cubano

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posted October 19, 2000 03:30 PM

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to be honest with you, whether or not it's too much totally depends on how your body reacts to it. if your tits start sprouting like a 13yr old girl, then yes it's too much. if at the end of your cycle you start losing muscle every time you take a piss then yes it's too much. if your prostate gets so large that you can barely piss, then yes it's too much. otherwise, you're good to go, at least until your liver croaks.

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decibel

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posted October 19, 2000 03:32 PM

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well, the sides aren't that bad (acne on my chest/shoulders and a little bloating, of course). i hadn't been feeling anything lately and i've been stuck on the same weight for about three weeks so i decided to go up for two weeks and then start to taper.
i'll let you know if it worked.

i did take sus at the beginning of my cycle but now i'm only taking enanthate. the sus did make me a bit sick, though. i felt like i had a flu, cold shivers and shit.


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KODIAK99

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posted October 19, 2000 03:33 PM

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el cubano, Let me remind you as a mod you should ask about the guys size before you flame him. If he's 11 feet tall and weighs 600-700 pounds this may be just the stack necessary to get things going. If he's 6'1" 235lbs like me it would be just the right stack to die on. LOL

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Nutzz

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posted October 19, 2000 03:34 PM

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I took a gram of prop on sunday and will take another today. I haven't any sides except for a sore and swollen ass. In fact the acne I had from my previous cycle is clearing.


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decibel

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posted October 19, 2000 03:38 PM

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i'm hardly your size kodiak, i'm only 5'9" and 200lbs.

nutzz - that reminds me - last friday i took 3cc shots in my deltoids and they were in an incredible amount of pain all week. one of them is sill sore, actually. at first i thought it was an infection, but there was no redness or swelling. it was probably just too much oil for the shoulders to handle.


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Loophole Genetics

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posted October 19, 2000 03:42 PM

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If you have to ask people on this board if 2000mg is too much, then I would say "Yes...it is." You should never do that amount of juice and not know if it is enough or not. Maybe you should've asked that question before you started taking it. No flame, just my opinion.


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el cubano

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posted October 19, 2000 03:45 PM

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i was NOT flaming him at all, i was letting him know the EXACT truth of the matter. I personnally have taken 2000mg's in one week before without too many adverse effects, of course i was using nolvadex at the same time.

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ironmaster

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posted October 19, 2000 03:51 PM

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If he's using Brovel, its sure not too much.


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E2

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posted October 19, 2000 03:53 PM

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2gms is not much, don't worry about it at all, no problem.

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ripped to shreads2

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posted October 19, 2000 03:54 PM

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if you taking that much i think that you probably know things and can tell to what mgs you respond the best,
but in another scenario for example if you got a smal dick and you are traing to make it look bigger by shrinking your testicles then the amount is ok but you can increase it for faster results

just jokin


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Omega44

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posted October 19, 2000 03:56 PM

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personly i think for ur size "5'9" and 200lbs" thats WAY to much. lol are u sure u dont mean 250mg?? d00d u sshould be blowing through the roof on those dosages.


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Slopain

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posted October 19, 2000 04:00 PM

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A gram of propionate today and a gram tommorrow nutz???? Are you sure about that?

Slopain

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decibel

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posted October 19, 2000 04:00 PM

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yes, i am using brovel.

i'm using this much because i just wasn't responding anymore. it'll only be for a couple of weeks, though.


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Loophole Genetics

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posted October 19, 2000 04:00 PM

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LMAO ripped2shredds...that was funny as hell


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THESAINT

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posted October 19, 2000 04:01 PM

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I've hit 1800mgs/week with no problems, but I
don't think I gained much mass compared to
a cycle I did at 1200mgs/week. It all depends on what you're stacking.


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RaverDude

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posted October 19, 2000 05:39 PM

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Brovel sucks man. Dont use that shit. I had the same problem. I was using 1500mg of enanthate on weeks 3,4,and 5 and I didn't gain one fucking gram. I haven't used Brovel since. Brovel is garbage.


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Fener

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posted October 19, 2000 05:59 PM

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e2 just wandering how much is too much for you?


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Slopain

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posted October 19, 2000 06:04 PM

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Raverdude, your shit was fake. The only reason brovel has a bad rep is its sterility and underdosing (both are exagerrated by the people on the board). Dont get me wrong, I wont ever use it, but you will make gains of of it - just not as good as the others.

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2Thick

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posted October 19, 2000 06:44 PM

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I think it is too much unless this is your 15th cycle (but then again I am not the best person to ask about this...lol).


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Bchemist

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posted October 19, 2000 06:48 PM

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If you are taking half-life into consideration, I would say that 2000mg for the first week or so is not too much. But to extend it for the duration of the cycle is a bit harsh for me. Maybe cut down to half that for weeks 3-8.


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Checkmatebloated

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Take it TEXAS! The boys in Dallas are going to take over the world! What's up D-man. I did not know you were on that much. hehehehe! I got to get this foot super okay so I can get back to the heavy squating.


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MR. BMJ

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posted October 19, 2000 08:26 PM

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The last cycle I took 3 years ago was 1000mg.
of enanthate/week; 1200 mg. of propionate/week; and 75 mg. of Reforvit/day. NO, I do not think it is too much. As long as you know what you are doing, then you should be able to get away with a lot of the negatives that are often created with heavy use. Just be a responsible juicer. A 10cc bottle of cypionate and enanthate/week is nothing to a lot of people I know.


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Nutzz

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posted October 19, 2000 11:02 PM

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slopain - I took a gram on sunday and a gram tonight.

For those using the 200mg prop, take 800mg motrin before shooting and then 400-800mg 6 hours later. That really helped me, considering my ass was still sore.


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Scanepchi

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posted October 19, 2000 11:31 PM

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hey bro 2skinny told me he has done 4000mg of test a week...i think you should email him and ask him hehe

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Hey bro, the more the merrier. It has been said that their are those who can handle more that others. I have personally gone as high as 3500mg. It made me f*ing nuts and I couldn't sleep, but hey, what the hell, I gained like a mo fo!!!

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M1KAI

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posted October 20, 2000 03:20 AM

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Bro,
2000mg of test depot SHIT me a bro who train's near me blew up like a mofo in 4 weeks on 1000mg he looked huge bit puffy but huge...!


I was expecting that E2 would say that i guess up to 5000mg in E2's mind would no be to much...!

I hope you have some pic's of you before and take some after we would like to see that here...! I hope to be doing 750mg to 1000mg of test depot on my next cycle only a short one though...!

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Hey, slopain; what I said was 2 grams wasn't too much if its Brovel. Like you said, it's not as good as others. I didn't trash the stuff, I'll use it if I get it real cheap so I can afford to take enough to get sust like results from it. Have you seen fake Brovel? I didn't think anyone bothered to fake the shit cause its so inexspensive.


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Slopain

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I havent seen fake brovel at all. Like you said its pretty cheap so they wouldnt be making a whole lot of money there anyways, kind of like faking ref-b or nolvadex, they are all obtained for very cheap price. I haven't seen a fake brovel product.

Ouch 1,000mg's prop. shot in one day and another one two days later! I don't think Id be able to walk.

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Nutzz

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The second two shots still do not hurt. Either taking the motrin helped more than i thought or my body is starting to like the prop.


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posted October 20, 2000 11:54 AM

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slopain what test you take when you go up to a gram/week, also do you stack w/ that dose or by itself???

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gearseeker

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2000mg of propionate is too much if your taking 1000mg per shot. My tits (gyno) would be very upset if I used this much prop per shot. Why dont you try 300mg per day and keep your blood levels more constant? I dont think this is the reason you werent seeing gains, but prop needs to be used more often then twice per week. Eod at the least.

2000mg of test is fine though. I would prefer enanthate to anything, and 1200mg seems to work good for me. When it doesnt anymore Ill try 1500-2000. Ive enjoyed over 20 bottles of brovel test with no problems.


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E2

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Fener i can't say there is too much, just a dose i haven't done yet. I have friends who've done 5gms a week, while i've yet to do that, i can't say that it's too much, to each his own.

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Mr. T

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posted October 20, 2000 12:31 PM

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I think its too much. You would get the same results with a gram a week. Especially if your only 200lbs. Its overkill and a waste of gear-


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posted October 20, 2000 01:23 PM

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mr t ---how can you really waste gear, im curious??????

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Slopain

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I am using Sus250 and stacking it with EQ currently. Next time around it will be Aratest though.


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posted October 20, 2000 02:00 PM

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If you are a 220 lbs, lean, natural bodybuilder who has reached his natural genetic potential, 2000mg is not to much....


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Roidranger- very easily, your body will not use it all and convert it to estrogen. If your taking Nolvadex then great you dont get gyno. But your still wasting it. I think people take doses that are way too high. More is not neccesarily better- (2thick? Where are you?)


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First I just want to say HEY to everybody.
I am a compettitive bodybuilder from Europe - national level who just discovered this board.
Keep up the good work guys.

2000 mg is not too much per se, if you have the right previous history... starting low and building up so you don't burn out on everything too fast.
I have gone up to 3000 mg, but I never stay on anything more than 3 weeks before switching, I go like this:
3 weeks propionate 1500,followed by 3 weeks omnadren 2000, followed by 3 weeks 3000mg test enanthate followed by 3 weeks sustanon 3000 ... than start over...

Deca as a base at 6-800 and arimidex... nolvadex dosen't do much for me... on this dosage it's arimidex or wonderbra.
Every now and than I put in a couple of weeks of just primobolan - considering off cycle - if I start turning bright yellow.


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KODIAK99

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Nutzz, you have to look at your goals I guess and decide if the return your getting is commensurate with the amount of AS, stress, on your body, and cost. My gains on moderated doses with a good 6-8 weeks between cycles have been fine for me. I am not interested in pushing the envelope, and finding the dose that saturates all my receptors. I think the key is to listen your body, we are all different and our bodies react differently. I've tried higher doses and found the sides were too brutal for me and outweighted any possible gains. I suppose some bros are not as concerned or not as susceptible to sides.


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