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Jackle

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posted October 18, 2000 06:49 PM

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Theres a new company, now on the stock market, which has designed a needle free syringe for non-vet applications. Currently, the product is still under FDA approval and phase testing. The syringe works by utilizing a spring loaded device which is engaged upon contact with the injection site. The syringe contains a micrometer size hole which produces a needle like stream of the solution which passes through the dermal layers into the muscle. The resultant of this is the cessation of transmitable deseases such as HIV and HEP due to the lack of a penatrating needle. In addition, it may be quicker and more effective than the conventional method for sticking gear. Check it out.

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Green

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posted October 18, 2000 06:52 PM

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Sounds like it would hurt like a bitch. How long is that bitch blowing a hole in you to push in 3 cc of EQ?


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bb4424

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posted October 18, 2000 06:52 PM

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I like the needle..it makes me tougher.


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Jackle

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posted October 18, 2000 06:58 PM

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I dont know how long the injection lasts. But if its spring loaded, it must be pushing at a decent rate. I think the plus is that it is a self contained unit. No more screwing needles onto the syringe. Their ready to go.

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Green

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posted October 18, 2000 06:59 PM

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sounds intresting enough but we'll see. LAter, Green


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Badkins21

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posted October 18, 2000 07:04 PM

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I don't know, I've kind of started to like sticking myself every other day or so...

...no, nevermind, it's a bitch! I'd like to see how available these little things are going to be, too...and how much $$...keep us updated!

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Green

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posted October 18, 2000 07:06 PM

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How does it know not to shoot it into a vein? Or thru a vein?? I'm intrested to see what it does and how it works. What's the companys name? Thanks, Green


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Jackle

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posted October 18, 2000 07:11 PM

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Good question, which I cannot answer. A friend of mine from work whos a heavy trader on the stock market told me about the company. Multiple others as well, so I cant remeber which is which. Ill try to get the info a post it in the AM.
You may be able to search it in yahoo finance. I believe the product is called medi-ject.

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ajc

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posted October 18, 2000 07:16 PM

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Finally...A less painful scrotum injection for my buddy Biff.


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Dr.Atlas

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posted October 18, 2000 07:42 PM

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Sounds similar to what we got vaccines with in the army, only it used compressed air. We were lined up like cattle while they shot us with these guns which looked kinda like fina pellet injectors. We were shot in the delt. When they shot the kid ahead of me, they kinda skidded it off his delt, leaving a long shallow gash. First he puked, then he passed out, then later the poor bastard had to go do it again. I'll keep my eye out for these. Peace!

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timac

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posted October 18, 2000 07:47 PM

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Doc Atlas is right.
we had those when I was in boot camp, they didn't work for shit. After the inject, half the shit would drip down your arm, and those weren't oil based injections.
if that happened with water based, imagine what it would do with an oil base.

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Slopain

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posted October 18, 2000 07:54 PM

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Interesting, I would fear abcess if the 3-4cc's I shoot wouldn't get in deep enough to the muscle. I mean "a needle like stream"?

Would love if it became a reality for us, but Im skeptical.

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KODIAK99

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posted October 18, 2000 07:58 PM

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I am skeptical it could be used for thick oil bases, well see what happens.


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shawdawg

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posted October 18, 2000 10:19 PM

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I agree with my former army bros....if you flinch, it will cut you nicely, plus they only give you a 1cc injection with those guns and the thick oli based gear at high dosages might cause problems.

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Steel27

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posted October 18, 2000 10:24 PM

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I love needles. When the day comes to inject i get so happy.

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Jackle

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posted October 18, 2000 10:25 PM

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Ill look further into the intended application and post some info tomorrow. They have to be good for something, otherwise they wouldnt be under government approval.


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harmonic

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posted October 18, 2000 10:29 PM

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Man, talk about getting soar!! I take a good 45 seconds or so for an injection. But a sping loaded injection would be like 1-2 seconds. That would hurt like hell!!


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1911

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posted October 18, 2000 10:34 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Dr.Atlas:
"Sounds similar to what we got vaccines with in the army, only it used compressed air. We were lined up like cattle while they shot us with these guns which looked kinda like fina pellet injectors. We were shot in the delt...."

Man, that brings back memories. Seems like yesterday and it was a long time ago for me.

BTW - What was the guage on that "big ass" atropine injector? Fortunately we never had to use the real deal but I remember looking at that fucker when practicing and thinking "no way!" I'll die from the chemical attack before I jam that big bitch into my quad!" - LOL

Later,

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E M T

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posted October 18, 2000 11:03 PM

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Man, they sure know how to take the fun out of everything.


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Hardcore4Evr

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posted October 19, 2000 01:34 AM

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Screw that, ill stick to my needles :) I look forward to the days when i stick in both legs and one cheek in the same night! What a freakin rush! :)

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JayisCrazy

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posted October 19, 2000 09:40 AM

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This technology has been around for a while...Here are a few sites!
www.powderject.com
www.bioject.com
www.equidyne.com
Cheers,
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Fish

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posted October 19, 2000 10:40 AM

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I will let you try it first. I too was army, and I perfer the needle.

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Jackle

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posted October 19, 2000 12:49 PM

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Alright bros, heres an excerpt I took from the stock report. You can check it out for yourself at yahho finance.
"Headquartered in Minneapolis, Medi-Ject Corporation is the world's leading marketer of needle-free injectable drug delivery systems. Medi-Ject manufactures hand-held injectors that deposit pharmaceuticals, including insulin and growth hormone, under the skin without a needle. Presently, these needle-free injection systems are distributed in over twenty countries. Medi- Ject's common stock is traded on the Nasdaq Small Cap Market under the symbol MEDJ."

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mike peters

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posted October 19, 2000 12:57 PM

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I've been hit by one years ago in the military. Like the above said, 1cc is all it's good for. I don't think 3cc could be shot through your arm that fast. Even 1cc was painful. I'll stick to the injecting, I don't feel it.


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MP5

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posted October 19, 2000 04:54 PM

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What's the big deal, needles don't hurt anyhow.


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beefmaster

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posted October 19, 2000 05:49 PM

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It's only good for sub Q, not Intramuscular injections. Those military pnuematic puppys will rip a mondo hole in your delt if you flinch when they pull the trigger! I have the scar. I LOVE NEEDLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Green

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posted October 19, 2000 05:53 PM

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Beef check this out. I sent an email to the company asking how much volume you can inject at once. I also asked for specs and pricing. I'll post as soon as I get a response.
http://www.bioject.com/Information/Product_Description/


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ryker77

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posted October 19, 2000 05:57 PM

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1911, BTW - What was the guage on that "big ass" atropine injector?

They don't use the same type of pin for atropine. They have a spring loaded little device now. You still have to press it to your body but the pin and injection is spring loaded. A few have F^CKED up and had the needle shot through thier thumb. I think that the needle is around 18-20 gauge.

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