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bull_dog

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posted October 18, 2000 12:22 PM

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Please take a look at this. I need some help w/ nov doses to battle sides. Also not sure on the 2nd cycle how much Clen to use. Keep in mind i've never done a cycle. Thanks in advance.

Cycle 1
Dec Sust Clomid nov
200 250
400 250
400 500 Dose?
400 500 Dose?
400 250
400 250 100
200 250 100
200 100
100

Cycle 2
Dec ECA Clen T3 Clomid
Dose? 180mcg
Dose? 180mcg
200 Dose? 180mcg
400 Dose? 180mcg
400 Alot
400 Alot
200 A lot 100
200 A lot 100
Dose? 180mcg 100
Dose? 180mcg 100


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bull_dog

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posted October 18, 2000 12:45 PM

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Cycle 2 Fixed. I that all messed up

Dec ECA Clen T3 Clomid
Dose? 180mcg
Dose? 180mcg
200 Dose? 180mcg
400 Dose? 180mcg
400 Alot
400 Alot
200 Alot 100
200 A lot 100
Dose? 180mcg 100
Dose? 180mcg 100


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bull_dog

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posted October 18, 2000 12:50 PM

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I'm doing something wrong w/ spacing this out. Let me try again. I'm really not a complete idiot. Well maybe.

Cycle 2 Fixed. I that all messed up

Dec ECA Clen T3 Clomid
********* Dose? 180mcg
********* Dose? 180mcg
200 **** Dose? 180mcg
400 **** Dose? 180mcg
400 Alot
400 Alot
200 Alot ***** ******* 100
200 A lot ***** ******* 100
**************Dose? 180mcg 100
**************Dose? 180mcg 100


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mike001

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posted October 18, 2000 12:53 PM

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do not pyramid the sustanon... go 500 througout


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted October 18, 2000 01:05 PM

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Bulldog-Mike is correct,pyramiding is a bygone method.It makes no sense to use small dosages that do very little in the way of promoting growth,yet are inhibitory on your hormonal axis.If anything,keep your dosages steady from start to finish,with a very slight taper on the last week or two.


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bull_dog

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posted October 18, 2000 04:16 PM

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So you think I should do 500 sust for the whole cycle for my first cycle?

What do you think about the Novaldex? How much to take?

Also, which brands of Deca?
NORMA HELLAS or OSS HOLLAND-ORGANON? These are being sold for $14 and $15 respectavely. The Sust 250 I can get for $11 if it's real.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted October 18, 2000 05:21 PM

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Yes,500mg/weekly all the way through,250mg/the last week if you want a slight taper,but it's not really necessary as susts esters release rates will take care of the taper on their own.Either Normas or Organon are top quality products.That's a decent price on the sust.10-20mg/daily of nolvadex should do the trick.


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bull_dog

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posted October 18, 2000 05:27 PM

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Thanks man. Should I worry about hair losss and acne on this if I use the nov? I read an article about using nizoral shampoo for this too. Is it necessary?

Can't tell ya how much I appreciate your help. I'm 25 and have never gone past androdiol before! I was worried about sides w/ that crap too.


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MUSTANG_18

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posted October 18, 2000 06:17 PM

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THE FIRST CYCLE I WOULD DO THE SUST AT 500mg/WEEK STRAIGHT THROUGH AND START THE DECA AT 400mg/WEEK AND TAPER AT THE END OF YOUR CYCLE. AS FOR THE SECOND CYCLE I AM NOT REALLY SURE BUT I'LL BUMP IT FOR YOU. GOOD LUCK ON YOUR CYCLE BRO

M18


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bull_dog

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posted October 19, 2000 08:16 AM

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bump


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Kry

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posted October 19, 2000 08:49 AM

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I would continue the clomid past the last week of cycle 2 at 50mg a week for one week then 50mg eod for a week. better to be safe then sorry


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