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speedy

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From:nyc, ny, usa
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posted October 17, 2000 01:29 PM

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I want to start my first real cycle/stack. Unlike most of you guys I'm not a muscle builder, but an endurance athlete, I race bicycles. I'm 6'3" and 165lbs. I want to gain strength (which will last), and build up my upper body a bit. I'm going back to the gym for the winter.
Here's my program after alot of confusing research.
Week# ....Deca...... Primo...... Clomid
1........200mg.......100mg
2 .......300....... 200
3 .......400....... 300....... 200
4 .......400 .......300
5 .......300 .......300
6....... 200 .......200
7....... 100
8
9 ............................200

Like everyone else I want to avoid losing any more rapidly than I am already, Deca Dick, and a low sex drive (which in my opion is too low alredy).
Would any one suggest adding other stuff?
Would HCG help? Or some kind of Test.?
Thanks for any help.
Some body suggested maybe doing Winstrol and Anavar. I know very little about them.


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2Thick

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posted October 17, 2000 01:33 PM

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Since you are an endurance athlete, you may want to use some test to speed up recovery. Maybe 250mg of Sustenon per week for 6 weeks.
You should use the Clomid at the end of the cycle only. Start the Clomid 10 days after you last test injection and use it at 100mg/day for 7 days and then 50mg/day for 7 days.

Even if you do not use test, you will do well with a high protein diet (along with a high quailty calorie diet.)

Other than that, your cycle looks fine.


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MUSTANG_18

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posted October 17, 2000 02:31 PM

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I WOULD START THE DECA AND PRIMO HIGH AND TAPER DOWN AT THE END AND MAYBE ADD SOME TEST LIKE 2THICK SAID. JUST MY .2 CENTS
GOOD LUCK ON YOUR CYCLE BRO.

M18


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speedy

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posted October 17, 2000 06:33 PM

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So you would add 250mg of Sustenon per week starting at the first week of the cycle?( to add to the stack).
Do people agree with Mustang18 that I should start at a higher doesage? Insted of tapering up.
Should I add any Ipraflex or Chrysin to the Clomid?


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lawnsaver

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posted October 17, 2000 07:07 PM

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If you want the perfect addition(according to Huck Finn_) would be winny. they have a synergistic affect on each other. Ben Johnson loved winny and if you dont want the added pounds but an increase in strength go with winny


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speedy

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posted October 17, 2000 07:32 PM

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You mean that insted of Sustenon you would add Winny? If so how much and how long for?


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speedy

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posted October 17, 2000 08:24 PM

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Dr.Atlas

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posted October 17, 2000 08:27 PM

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I would not use primo and deca together, since I understand they have similar modes of action and are not synergistic. I would add winny or sos to the deca for one cycle, then save the primo for another (possibly stand-alone) cycle. Peace!

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speedy

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posted October 17, 2000 09:20 PM

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Do people agree with Dr.Atlas who says "not use primo and deca together"


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MUSTANG_18

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posted October 17, 2000 09:43 PM

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I HAVE HEARD THAT YOU SHOULD NOT USE PRIMO AND DECA TOGETHER AND I HAVE HEARD SOME PEOPLE SAY THEY HAVE HAD GOOD RESULTS. HUCK HAD A GREAT POST ON WINNY AND DECA AND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO ADD PRIMO, WINNY SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD CHOICE. ILL BUMP FOR ANY MORE REPLYS. GOOD LUCK BRO

M18


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DSPO

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posted October 17, 2000 10:18 PM

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I agree with 2thick...the cycle looks good. I am in my 5th week of 200mg of Deca and 100mg of Primo with one shot of Sustenon in the middle of week 2 and 3. I have gained 11 lbs. of body weight and have lost some body fat. My strength is up big time 30-80lbs on all exercises (seen more gains on leg strength).

I lost my sex drive (known as Deca Dick). This does not happen to all but it does to some of us. I would add some Sustenon 250 to prevent Deca Dick. If you do not want to add much size I would only use one Sustenon 250 at week 2 and 5 otherwise do it as described by 2thick. Do Clomid as 2thick advised.

DSPO


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PerfectRep

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posted October 17, 2000 11:47 PM

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I agree with 2Thick, throw in some sust at maybe 250mg for the first 4 weeks, then switch to prop at 50mg eod for the next 3.


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