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thefantom1

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posted October 17, 2000 01:47 AM

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Now of course as all of you know my posts are for entertainment purposes only....and Hypothetical..

If a bro was to get popped for say..oh..lets just use some type of vitamins that are not legal to have in the US..Say you just received your goddies and there is a knock at the door.. (more likely a battering ram) and a bunch of commando dudes with guns running and screaming through your house. First of all get on the ground and place your hands out to your sides..they will cuff you up..(also a great time for that aching rotator cuff to come up....for your later civil suit) Anyway they will put you in your living room and start asking questions about where the stuff is at...They will threaten you by saying that they will totally fuck up your house looking for it...that they will take your kids to Department of Kids and Family Services..(that is a weak spot for most offenders) but it is total bullshit..Your resonse should be in a respectful manner.... "I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY ATTORNEY PRESENT" Because at this point even though you are handcuffed you are not "under arrest" but simply being detained..so the Miranda rule is a grey area here if you give them statements, now it will be of your own freewill.....They will say that you made statements of your own free will..and it will be admissable in court...I can't stress enough that you must say "I WANT MY ATTORNEY PRESENT"....then you will hear a bunch of BS at the station..."We can make these charges go away if you help us get the bigger fish" Don't buy into it...Even after you have asked for a lawyer and refused to answer any questions...(you must comply with booking questions...name,dob,etc) the feds will say that they have you on this and this and that you are going to do time....Bullshit..don't believe it...you have to be proven guilty first...and besides..most guys who use 'vitamins" have no criminal record at all..so unless you get caught with tons of the stuff..you ain't going to jail..(most of the time) Another thing...now this is my opinion..always ask for a jury trial.....this is time consuming and costly for the prosecuters....and remember that these people are your average Joe's who don't want to be there in the first place...Let alone put one of their own in jail for just trying to improve himself....Always be polite and respectful to the cops, judge, and even he District Attorney...My guess would be if you asked for the Jury trial..got as many delays as possible..the District Attorney will most likely offer you a plea bargain to a reduced charges...which means mostly you will get either probation or supervision...if this happens and you have a sharp attorney...he can probably get you to plead to misdemeanor charges.....pay a fine..along with hopefully supervision..then after the supervision time is complete your record is wiped clean... Just thoughts from thefantom1......"I WANT MY
ATTORNEY PRESENT"!!!!!!! Ok I'm done on my long winded rant.... Hypothetically of course...And when you are in the jail..remember that you don't know the difference between Dianabol or Andro..You don't know shit...Loose lips will do nothing but harm you...trust me... I know...

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thefantom1

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posted October 17, 2000 02:06 AM

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BUMP...I think this is important bro's..take a look


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paddy

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posted October 17, 2000 03:37 AM

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very good fantom.a wise man;s famouse last word;s i want my attorney.


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therealj

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posted October 17, 2000 03:42 AM

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The day this happens over 24 omnas and 200 d-bol is the day I win the Mr.O

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thefantom1

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posted October 17, 2000 08:09 AM

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TherealJ...Wow!!! I didn't know we had a pro bodybuilder here!!! Good luck at the Mr. O.....Smartass..... :-) j/k bro...And this very well could happen..even over little shit like that...

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msg

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posted October 17, 2000 09:17 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by therealj:
The day this happens over 24 omnas and 200 d-bol is the day I win the Mr.O


WRONG BUDDY. unless i am now a PRO BODYBUILDER! i was visited for LESS, i repeat LESS than that.

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ZEUS13NJ

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posted October 17, 2000 09:20 AM

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GOOD INFO BRO...BUMP...ZEUS


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Francis Drake

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posted October 17, 2000 09:51 AM

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cool stuff bro. thanks


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thefantom1

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posted October 17, 2000 10:45 AM

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Bro's...this has not happened to me...or to anyone I know...I just happen to know some fellas in the law enforcement field..and they told me that the worst thing a guy can do when he gets arrested is to open his mouth...So basically just keep your mouth shut and ask for an attorney...

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therealj

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posted October 17, 2000 01:11 PM

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battering rams and swat team storming your house to find a little personal stash...c'mon...unless your a known big time dealer and they have serious proof of such that bullshit won't happen...watching too much cops fellas

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E2

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posted October 17, 2000 01:39 PM

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RealJ you're a fellow cake, no need to ever worry about anything like this, personal possesion is legal up here in THE GREAT WHITE NORTH!!!

Hell we're all too busy trying to protect ourselves from the renegade polar bears and wolves!!! We don't have time to worry about who's on what.

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Geared

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posted October 17, 2000 01:43 PM

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Always mark the box, wrong address, return to sender, just don't send it back, keep for a few days if nothing happens happy juicing! But i could see our small town police dept. doing something like that...two feds and 15 town cops...


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Pharm Animal

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posted October 17, 2000 02:23 PM

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fantom1...

thanks for the info, and the time you took to post it!

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stalker

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posted October 17, 2000 03:22 PM

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Geared:

Putting "Not at this address" isn't necessary. If you are going to get popped, they'll do it right away. You think three days later a bunch of cops will storm your place looking for gear? In three days, you could have used it, sold it, flushed it, etc., and they have nothing. If it's going to happen--and you are not a dealer who holds inventory--then it'll happen at the time during which you take possession.


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Tronco

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posted October 17, 2000 03:43 PM

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The first thing I learned in criminal law..deny..deny..deny..deny..deny..deny.

E2,I never thought of that, maybe I'll move to Canada so I can justfy Captain Insaino cycles as self defense, afterall who wants to get their ass stomped by some wayward polar bear.


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1Banshee

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posted October 17, 2000 03:53 PM

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Listen to Fantom, don't say shit!!! Don't even deny, just say you want a lawyer... Believe me if you get talking and denying you will trip up... Don't talk!!


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XXXL

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posted October 17, 2000 03:59 PM

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one thing a buddy of mine learned the hard way. if you're given any promises of help for opening your mouth, get it in writting from someone athurized to make the offer. yes, they WILL and DO lie to you to get what they want.


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Badkins21

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posted October 17, 2000 04:22 PM

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Can't wait to get my law degree in a few years, I'll help all y'all out, seriously!

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msg

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posted October 17, 2000 04:50 PM

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therealj,

you said,

"battering rams and swat team storming your house to find a little personal stash...c'mon...unless your a known big time dealer and they have serious proof of such that bullshit won't happen...watching too much cops fellas"

true. they did not batter down my door but they did knock and they did enter and they did scare the shit out of me! for you guys info - i DO NOT watch cops! in addition, this was for less than 30 amps of sus.

be very careful here in the US guys. cus this ain't Canada!

peace,
msg

ps - i am not a known drug dealer and have never been and never will be.


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DREXX

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posted October 17, 2000 09:30 PM

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Good post Fantom!

Funny Shit E2...

I love that molson canadian comercial where the american teases the canadian...

Where is your tuke AH?

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Natural Wonder

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posted October 17, 2000 10:17 PM

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BUMP GOOD INFO...


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thefantom1

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posted October 18, 2000 12:18 AM

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Thanks to the bro's who liked this post..I just can't stress enough about the asking for an attorney and shutting your mouth...

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buff221

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posted October 18, 2000 12:41 AM

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Thanks for the info, I will print it up and keep it for my records. Thanks.


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