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 WINSTROL- Zambon, Ilium, or Jurox- which is best?
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| Author | Topic: WINSTROL- Zambon, Ilium, or Jurox- which is best? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 128 |
Which one of these fine products do you prefer and why?- thanks.    | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 176 |
Jurox  | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 233 |
I like the Zambon's. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 306 |
Bump for you grip, and dont forget the WHY??? people. btw How are the lifts going lately Grip? ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 632 |
i have not had any experience with the zambons. i have seen both jurox and ilium, and the jurox shit looked too grainy. i went with the ilium, since it's micronized <can fit through a 29 gauge> ...the price aint that bad either ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 173 |
I would say Zambon but they're way too expensive, so I'm going with Denkal | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 731 |
Clear the ice! I like the Zambons. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 242 |
i dont like the idea of the vet drugs ! winny is an expensive drug ! but i kinda love it !! buy the cheapest ones u can find "non vet" even if its powder/amps/tabs they r all the same ,just watch out for the fakes !! | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 5210 |
Zambons are hands down the best, second is upjohn winny V, Grip nice to see you around again, if you have time email me. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 171 |
Zambon`s winny is the best!! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1080 |
definitly Zambon. The bonus is "it's human grade". ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 410 |
I too had good experiences with Zambon, taking Illium right now and liking the results so far. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 327 |
Zambon�...Because it's made cleaner that vet products. (Depot = human grade) (V = vetranary grade) ------------------ "It's like mind over matter. If you don't mind... IT DON'T MATTER" Flash� version--> http://www.geocities.com/richmaffei/index.html None Flash� version--> http://www.geocities.com/richmaffei/pages/home.html | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 791 |
I still don't understand how everyone can clearly state "human grade drugs are cleaner than vet products." That is NOT the case. There is no difference in the specification in both the U.S. and Mexico for pharmaceutical products. Why is this true? Most of the drugs are made to be used in animals who later will be used for human consumption. So, indirectly, we're eating the same drugs the animal had administered. Also, a cow with a huge infected abcess cannot be sold to market. Therefore, the vet drugs must be clean to be used properly. When it comes to Winstrol, aka stanazolol, there is virtually no difference in the various products. The liquid suspensions are just the drug suspended in water. The difference lies in how tiny each particle of the drug is. The Ilium (Denkall) product is one of the best for this. It's also one of the most reasonable where I live. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1080 |
There is a BIG difference between Human grade and vet grade. Things are made more sterile. More care is taken to produce something 100 % clean to use. If you think otherwise, then go ahead and use only Tornel stuff. When you get sick, you will know the difference. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 5210 |
Gymrat looks like we're going to disagree again, there are huge differences between human grade and vet grade, and mex does not conform to the same standards as european or american pharmaceutical companies. When was the last time you heard of an american or european company admitting they they have produced contaminated batches???? Brovel has done this a few times. Don't try and tell me that there is no difference. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 24 |
Here in Brazil we have Spain's Zambon 50mg amps more easily available, but I've seen others with higher concentrations and bigger volumes also. Guess most these others were from Argentina. AndrewXON | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 485 |
I'm taking the jurox now. I'm starting to think it's underdosed. Next time I'm going with the Ilium. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 485 |
Take Brovel out of the mexican equation and you have quality products. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 791 |
My argument was not to defend Brovel (I would never do that), but the general fact that both American and Mexican pharmaceuticals (I don't follow European standards) are produced to a general conformance, regardless of their final destination as human or veterinary grade. In many cases (from working in an American pharmaceutical lab), the manufacturer making the drug does not know the market the drug will be sold to -- i.e. human or vet. Therefore, they have to conform to the same standard. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 90 |
Go with Zambon if you can get it cheap. I know about a year and a half ago I could get em for $7 an amp but thats deal is no more for me. But that does show you can get them fairly reasonably!! If not I too prefer the Iilum. Just prefernce from the visuals I've had of both. I can't offer any first hand because I have yet to do winny!! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1216 |
Denkall(illium)Stanazolic is the best. It's micronized so it's easier to inj and I'm on 3ccs EOD with deca and I'm putting on more mass than I have previously with Zambon. In America, I have seen vet products and human grade bottled on the exact same production lines. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 33 |
first i would like to thank everyone for this kick ass board i refer it to everbody considering using as,,i dont realy post that much only because most of my questions have almost always been asked ,,but this post raises a new one ,,ive been using wins-v by upjohn ,but its the vet product any need to be alarmed ive had great results never any problems but still concerned i would appreciate all replys ,if you could respond before the yanks kicks seatles ass thad be great . | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 140 |
Jurox is the best one, it has the lowest androgenic properties..versus endrogenic. But i recommend u to take a cycle of primobolan depot...it gets u hard..and ripped in no time...good luck | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 929 |
it appears the choices are made by states or countries. in my opinion Illium is by far the best but again its what avaiable. jurox is iffy and my last batch to me no where as effective as illium. illium was a smooth injection, no pain the next day, tasted good enough to drink with results the same as injections, and results fantastic. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 679 |
i would like to get some good winny, cause all i know is that cutting fuel is a bunch of horseshit! ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 688 |
Jeff_Rys, What's your beef with Tornel? Tornel's packaging may look lackluster but from quite a few people in my direct contact the feeback (me too) that have used Tornel's products ( t200,N200, and Eq) NO ONE has gotten sick or gotten an abcess. I have the feeling that people who have gotten abcesses from Tornel stuff have gotten copycat products made illegally. Brovel-as E2 had said has put out some contaminated batches of product (the vet supply I go to even attests to this) and I can see someone( albeit rare) gettting sick from Brovel's gear. We all have to realize that too many newbies that get a lump of oil built up that hasnt dispersed in the buttock that is sore as hell and hard and even a bit red as an ABCESS!! There have been plenty of those-some heat and massage will bring them down nicely. To the question Zambon and Illium are both micrnized-that makes them easy to inject with 25g and smaller needles. I cannot attest to the quality of them though. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 213 |
ZAMBON!!!!!! |
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posted October 16, 2000 07:23 PM
