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CuriousGoerge

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posted October 16, 2000 07:06 PM

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I am finishing my 1st cycle (Sustenon 250), and wondering which supplements will help kick in my natural testosterone and help me keep my gains. I have heard Clomid but that is unavailable. I also heard Acetabolan II and other zinc products. I gained 20lbs and don't won't to lose it. Any suggestions? Preferably over the counter. Thanks


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2Thick

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posted October 16, 2000 07:12 PM

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Clomid is the first choice. Proviron is also helpful. Some people use Tribulus and Creatine (and you should use creatine).

If you can find PGF2 or clen, then use it.

Otherwise, you are kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place.


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~Goku~

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posted October 16, 2000 07:56 PM

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I would suggest throwing in primobolan to make those muscles hard.

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[This message has been edited by ~Goku~ (edited October 16, 2000).]


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Linares868

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posted October 16, 2000 08:12 PM

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Try some HCG,Clomid and Clenbuterol. Creatine is good also.


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beef da newest newbie

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posted October 16, 2000 08:32 PM

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go to the seach and type "gains keeper formulas" that should do the trick. hope that helps.
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Fener

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posted October 16, 2000 08:50 PM

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hey 2thick we had a long debate about clomid when you were gone. it turned ot alot of people don't think is useful to take it eod throughout the cycle but they say it should be saved for post cycle only. I would like to know your thoughts about this and would like to know what is each of these way to take clomid leading to. Thakns in advantage for the info.


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2Thick

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posted October 16, 2000 09:20 PM

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I never use Clomid throughout. One of my buddies used it throughout and it didn't make much of a difference in the end when he came off. He still lost the same amount.

Using it after a cycle is essential. There is also the chance that your body will habituate to the Clomid (and therefore it is not as effective post-cycle).



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Fener

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posted October 16, 2000 09:23 PM

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thaks 2thick, that was my conclusion too, but to hear it from you makes me feel safer.


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DREXX

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posted October 16, 2000 11:03 PM

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The concensus was pretty much not to take clomid during since it fuck with the htpa...

Take Novaldex instead as an anti-e.

Do you take any anti-e's 2Thick?

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lawnsaver

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posted October 17, 2000 12:38 AM

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Back to the main question. This guy doesnt seem to have the ability to get all of the above. I did a sust only cycle for 10 weeks. I did some research and came up with Methoxygen from VPXsports. I took the recomended dose for 6 weeks. I kept all of my gains except water( 10lbs of 14lbs). My strength actually stayed almost the same. You can get a 240ml bottle on dpsnutrition for $110. Its expensive but it works. If you can find clomid use that. But this stuff really worked for me


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2Thick

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posted October 17, 2000 12:48 AM

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I use Clomid after the cycle for 2 weeks. I use Proviron after the cycle to slow down Estrogen production and I use Nolva if my nipples get irritated and/or painful.


--Once again (concerning the original question), it is not the end of the world if you cannot find clomid, but you should use creatine and tribulus (from the GNC) and hope for the best.


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lawnsaver

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posted October 17, 2000 12:57 AM

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instead of proviron and nolva can I use arimidex instead, plus clomid.


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2Thick

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posted October 17, 2000 01:02 AM

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When Nolvadex is used in conjunction with Proviron, it is almost as effective as Arimidex.

Therefore, Arimidex is far superior to using Nolva & Proviron by themselves.


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lawnsaver

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posted October 17, 2000 01:03 AM

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I can get nolva or arimidex but not proviron. But if I could what would you choose, Pr and Nolv or arimidex


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2Thick

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posted October 17, 2000 01:11 AM

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Arimidex is your best choice. It does everything you need concerning anti-e's.


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LattimerII

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posted October 17, 2000 03:40 AM

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Lawnsaver,
Can you get a script for arimidex or can you get it without I'm not looking for any (using the much cheaper nolvadex and proviron). I was just wondering if this stuff will soon be readily available.

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