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 Who has used more than 600mg of deca as week?
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 95 |
It is my second week and have shot 600 mg of Deca a week. Should I keep this same dosage until I suspect sideeffects or should I just reduce it to 400mg thoughout 10 weeks. I was considering just lowering to 400 and adding 200mg of primo. Deca only or Deca primo????????????????     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 202 |
Deca above 400mg covert to estrogen at a better rate. If you can get some arimidex or nolvadex you can stay, if not lower if you want to be safe | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 542 |
Everyone is different. Play with the dosage at 600mg and see how you react. If you have to goto the nolvadex then I would lower the deca and replace with primo as you stated. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 465 |
Arimidex, nolvadex won't prevent gyno from deca. (progesterone) Add wintrol for that. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1006 |
Yeah, I've been thinking of increasing my Deca to 600mg p/w (on top of 500mg Sus.), I'm nervous about progesterone conversion. Thing is, I get great results from 400mg, but I'm greedy! Let me know how you get on! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 95 |
Hacker is right - listen to him -Gord | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 202 |
estrogen just doesnt cause gyno. There are a lot more things that arimidex will help with. It will make you gain more quality, making you harder and more vascular. It will hold down the water retention and fat deposits. If you can add winny to deca that would be the bes. If you add the d-bol also please have arimidex on hand | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 4047 |
I do not believe that Nandrolone induces progesterone production, so arimidex, nolvadex or proviron will help. Even if you think that Deca leads to progesterone induced gyno, then stay at or below 600mg/week. It is a waste after that dosage. I personally would never go above 400mg/week, but I also believe that diet and intensity give you most of the gains and (not necessarily the dosage you use). | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 5172 |
Well here we go again, nandrolone does not increase progesterone production, rather it aromatizes into a progesterone like molecule. Not progesterone, but it will hook up with the progesterone receptor and will activate it. Now as previously stated, winstrol will help as it's a mild anti progesterone, a site blocking anti-progesterone. Or high androgens will also help, they will antagonize the progesterone receptor. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1063 |
So ? Throw away the Deca or sell it to the enemy and take EQ. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 97 |
get yourself some Winny and possibly throw in some test and you should be fine. I wouldn't go above 400mg/wk on Deca, but that is just me. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 95 |
Ok, I guess I will cut it to 400mg/week with 200mg of primo. | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 3 |
My $0.02: E-2 is right: Higher doses of nandrolone can lead to activation of progesterone receptors. One possible consequence is gyno. Another involves erectile difficulties. Stanozolol, used concurrently, will mittigate nandrolone's progestogenic effects. According to Bill Roberts, 50mg Winny per day (either injected or injested) should afford adequate protection for reasonable doses of nandrolone. Something else to consider is that nandrolone can also convert to estrogen, albeit not very easily. In high enough doses, this can also present a problem. Nolvadex or Clomid can be of some help here. Arimidex would be entirely useless, because the conversion process does not involve the aromatase enzyme. |
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posted October 16, 2000 01:13 PM