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| Author | Topic: Rocket Fuel... Any good? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 140 |
I have tried to find info on rocket fuel and test undecanoate. I can;t find shit. I heard that test undec. isn't too great. Can anyone offer some info?     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 140 |
Here was my idea. Since test undec. doesn't aromatize or convert to estrogen... would it be possible to take 750mg a week of that and 750-100mg of enanthate with it? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 205 |
WarLobo posted his experience with Rocket Fuel 400mg over on the Women's board. He removed it from his cycle because it was becoming too painful to use, which has been a common complaint of the 400mg version. I don't believe the 300mg version has the prop though, so it would probably be more tolerable. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 140 |
i forgot to add that it doesnt shutdown natural test.. thats why i wanna stack it with the enanthate... i am using the 300mg w/o the prop | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 674 |
Rugby, I am curious as to why undecanoate doesnt effect the HPTA (bodys own test). Do you have any refences for this. In all honesty I think thats erroneous. Maybe I am wrong. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 140 |
The information i got was from steroidworld.com for the andriol(capsule form of TU) I am assuming it is the same for the injectible... Are 40 mg brown colored miniature "rugby balls" by ORGANON of Europe. Each oval capsule is marked DV3 ORGANON on it. Dosage is 3 to 6 caps a day,and costs about $ 1.00 a cap. TU is a safe oral steroid that does not supress gonadotrophins.It is absorbed through the small intestine into the lymphatic system, no burden to the liver.TU is converted into DHT (5-Alpha Dhihydrotestosterone) DHT is 1,5 times as anabolic as regular testosterone, while only 1 or 2 percent is subject to aromatizing to estogen, and no gynecomastia.TU is a natural ester added to a synthetic derivative which will nor change liver enzymes. No testicular shrinkage, no reduction on in spermatogenesis will occur whith resonable dosages.Cholesterol triglycerides and total lipids tend to be reduced with long term use as opposed to elevated with most oral steroids. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 140 |
Bump this for the night time crowd | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 65 |
That information is bullshit. DHT is the primary cause for hair loss, and acne. DHT is more androgenic, and exhibits hardly any anabolic effect. Andriol is worthless crap compared to real gear(technically andriol is real...but is still crap)- maybe like a potent prohormone at best. It won't cause HPTA supression IF you take it in the morning, but not later in the evening at night, because it has a very short half life, and will match natural endocrine rythm t levels. [This message has been edited by B182 (edited October 16, 2000).] | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 6 |
My understanding is exactly as B182 stated, above. He is 100% right on this. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 140 |
If the injectible test isn;t worth shit... Why is our friend making it? | ||
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Novice
Posts: 6 |
Rugby, are we talking about IM or oral TU? Here is a Bill Roberts quote re: Andriol: Somewhere else, he likens the anabolic effect of 240 mg per day (!!) Andriol to a mere 100 mg IM test per week. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 219 |
After researching the subject, I believe injectable t.undecanoate will have different effects than Andriol. The problem with TU is not a very short half-life, but the rapid rate of clearnce urine and feces. I read that most of it is cleared in the urine, but how the hell are the kidneys gonna let a molecule the size of TU pass into the urine? Orally, the undecanoate probably has a hell of a time seperating from the chylomicrons. Injected intramuscularly, it should behave like a very long-acting ester. After all, nandralone is joined to undecanoate (Dynabolan?) and is regarded as an effective AS. Just my opinion. Peace! ------------------ | ||
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Novice
Posts: 6 |
Rugby, Dr. Atlas, Sorry, I think I misunderstood the thrust of this discussion. I strongly suspect that Dr. Atlas is correct in his assessment, above. My comments were made in reference to oral TU. Mea culpa. |
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posted October 15, 2000 09:47 PM