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px1138

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posted October 15, 2000 02:33 PM

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Alright, I hate to post first cycle questions here because there sure are a lot of them; but hell, I haven't posted a question yet so...
This IS my first cycle, I've been hanging around these boards for almost 6 monthes and have really learned a ton. I have ample amounts of Fina (made into injectable), 50mg winstrol tabs, 50mg dball tabs, clomid and nolvadex. I have now decided to do a 2 week cycle after reading Huck's post on short cycles a week back, and after reading all of Bill R's articles a few monthes ago.
My question is how should I go about this. I currently have three plans, all involve injecting 50-75mg EOD of the tren. Then I'm either going with Winstrol 50mg ED, or Dbol 50mg ED, or 25mg Win and 25mg Dbol ED. Which would be best? I would just go 50mg a day on both but I was afraid of really tearing up my liver (oh, and yes, I do have some milk thistle).
Also, on the Clomid and Nolv. I was planning on taking the Clomid EOD (50mg) throughout then upping it to 100 and then down to 50 for a week or so after the two weeks. On the Nolvadex, should I just take it thru the cycle because of the Dbol (provided I use it in this cycle) to circumvent the water retention and gyno? I don't mind the water, but of course gyno is not cool. Any ideas would be cool. Oh, and if anyone wants stats I'm 20 (been training consistentely since I was 13) and weigh 155 @10% , 5'5".


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Wanderer

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posted October 15, 2000 02:49 PM

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Well, it seems that you have done your homework. Dianabol and winstrol do not bind well to the AR, but winstrol still offers benefits so it is not as "traditional" as anadrol or dianabol. Tren. should be used in a short cycle, but only up to day 10. It will be more beneficial if you take a triple or quadruple dose of it on day 1, though, to get your levels up. I think your liver will be alright should you decide to go with 50mg of each daily, but you will still want to take precautions. As far as the clomid is concerned, I think it might be better to wait until post-cycle and continue it for 2-4 weeks, loading up with 300mg's on the first day and 50mg/day after that.

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px1138

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posted October 15, 2000 07:27 PM

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Any other suggestions? Anyone else think that 100mg of 17aa AS ED is not too much?


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px1138

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posted October 16, 2000 01:31 AM

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bump


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Pup'nIrn

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posted October 16, 2000 10:53 AM

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Px it depends totally on your goals. I would make this into a good 6 wk cycle.

......D-bol.......Fina.......Winny
wk1...50mg/day...100mg/eod...50mg/ed
wk2...50mg/day...100mg/eod...50mg/ed
wk3...35mg/day...100mg/eod...50mg/ed
wk4...25mg/day...100mg/eod...50mg/ed
wk5...............75mg/eod...50mg/eod
wk6...............50mg/eod...50mg/eod
wk7.Clomid.100mg/ed
Wk8.Clomid.50md/ed

The only problem you will have is spliting up the dosages throughout the day with those big tabs. Get a pill splitter and divide them into 1/4 tabs. I personally wouldn't use the D-bol for a stack like this but I have seen it done with nice results.


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px1138

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posted October 16, 2000 11:54 AM

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thanks for the advice but I'm definitely just doing 2 weeks, I'm just trying to get my feet wet and see how my body reacts. I've been weighing out consequences with the advantages for monthes and the 2 week deal is what is going to happen. any more opinions?


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