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Burnboy

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From:ky, usa
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posted October 14, 2000 10:42 PM

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sus fina clomid armidex
1 500 150 every .5
2 500 every 3rd eod
3 500 4th day
4 500 day
5 250
6
7 stop
8 stop
9 2/day
10 1/day
11 1/day

t-3:1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,
3,3,4,4,4,4,4,3,3,3,3,3,2,2,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,1
at the beginning also
please critique!

[This message has been edited by Burnboy (edited October 15, 2000).]


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lawnsaver

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posted October 15, 2000 12:08 AM

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Save the clomid till the end, your body can get used to it if you take it throughout your cycle


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Burnboy

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posted October 15, 2000 01:46 AM

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any other input?


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lawnsaver

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posted October 15, 2000 01:51 AM

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Well fina doesnt convert to estrogen. I'm a little confused on your doses. It looks like you are only taking sus for 5 weeks. Make it more clear and tell me your goals


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Burnboy

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posted October 15, 2000 02:01 AM

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fina doesnt convert easily i believe and im gyno prone so im being extra safe plus the sust will still be in my system, i want to gain as much muscle as i can at first then level off and keep getting stronger and leaner because i have to stay in a weight class for wrestling


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lawnsaver

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posted October 15, 2000 02:03 AM

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How long are you going to take each supp


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lawnsaver

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posted October 15, 2000 02:09 AM

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Fina doesnt convert to estrogen at any dose. As for the sus, yes it does convert. Take the arimidex.25mg ed


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Burnboy

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posted October 15, 2000 02:16 AM

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i just noticed that id didnt come out right, fina for 8 weeks 150mg every 4 days, novladex 20mg every day for 9 weeks armidex .25 ed for 6 weeks clomid every 3rd day and then 2 day after the cycle


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lawnsaver

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posted October 15, 2000 02:22 AM

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Ok, now arimidex will stop estrogen from being produced. Nolvadex will block the actions of estrogen. You shouldnt have to use them together, but you will need clomid at the end to bring back natural test. Arimidex will make all your gains on most any steriod high quality. This stuff is revolutionary. Tell why arim and nolva together


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Burnboy

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posted October 15, 2000 02:27 AM

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armidex to prevent the conversion of estrogen and novladex just in case some slips through, i am very very gyno prone, i got gyno from andro


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lawnsaver

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posted October 15, 2000 02:30 AM

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Ok, now let go back, what are your goals. What is your available gear


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Burnboy

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posted October 15, 2000 02:34 AM

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to gain as much as possible in 6 weeks or so then to use the fina to make me stronger and to get leaner. i havent even ordered yet. can anyone else help me?


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lawnsaver

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posted October 15, 2000 02:40 AM

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Dont like chatting with me...

I'm trying to get some replies also.

If you're trying to stay in a weight class, try eq 300mg wk, winny 25mg ed(drink it with some milk), use your fina, you will only need arimidex because eq and winny convert poorly to estrogen, and clomid at the end.

You will be hard, vascular, strong as hell and up only 10 lbs or so


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Burnboy

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posted October 15, 2000 04:26 AM

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thats too expensive, i like my cycle i just want other input


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Upjohn

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posted October 15, 2000 05:36 AM

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Ok don't do sus at all. This is a cutting cycle I believe, and why are you cycling only 6 weeks? Go longer, you won't be able to diet off all the fat and gain muscle from the sus at all because sus starts working week 6 lol.


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Burnboy

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posted October 15, 2000 06:18 PM

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can anyone else help?


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superdave

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posted October 15, 2000 06:47 PM

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Yea, forget the sust, you want fast acting strength gainers like winny, fina, maybe even dbol. If you could make the cycle longer, do eq also.

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lawnsaver

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posted October 15, 2000 08:33 PM

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You can still do the sus, the arimidex will stop a lot of the water bulk. You will be hard and lean. Keep the carbs lower and protien up to 2 grams per lbs of body wieght


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Burnboy

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posted October 15, 2000 11:06 PM

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thanks lawnsaver, besides at practice i can sweat off 4 ounds of water a day with no problem i dont have to make weight till mid-december so the bloat will be way gone byt then, any other suggestions?


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lawnsaver

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posted October 15, 2000 11:25 PM

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Since you are a wrestler, make sure you work your fast twitch muscles. These muscle fibers are worked with weights your can do 12 to 20 reps. These fibers grow 3 times as fast as slow twitch. Since you really need strength and not size, working this way will give you a little more explosive strength


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Burnboy

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posted October 16, 2000 08:58 PM

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thanks again lawnsaver


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