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 What do you think the top pros are taking?
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 172 |
Such as Ronnie, Dorian and Ray? I saw what Lee Priest had to say a while back about all he took was deca, primo and HGH. We all know that is a bunch of shit. I saw Ronnie Coleman on ESPN the other day posing (you know the pics we've all seen in the offseason) and he looked like a space alien from planet "Growth". I'd love to know there secrets to take the physiques to the next level. We all see guys in the gym that are huge, but the top pros make them look like boys. Somethings gotta give...    | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 202 |
I would say most are taking Gh, Igf1, insulin, t3, Parabolan( if there is still a stock pile) They have the money they pretty much have their pick. Definately arimidex  | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 231 |
Everything. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 626 |
CONATANT IV DRIP OF ALL OF IT.... JUST REMOVE IT FOR PHOTOS AND WORKING OUT! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 673 |
The pros arent alot of times taking exotic things although they have access to alot more drugs at lower prices than most regular people. Its not what they are taking (basic shit) its how MUCH and how LONG they are on for. A typical pro off cycle is say 2grams of test (pick the ester of the month) and lots of dbol or abombs and a nandralone of some type(deca or EQ) at about 600-800 mg per week and that kinda sums up the anabolics. Insulin is used or I should say ABUSED and a GH is thrown in at about 6-15 IU per day (depending on the cash flow of the individual). Some clen is also thrown in when increased fat during a bulking phase occours. Alot of these guys are going to be diabetics when they get older or even in a few years. Taking insulin (say 5-10 units ) after a workout to force in aminos and glucose and to augment the insulin resistance with GH is ,while I dont approve of it, at least sensible and relatively safe,but taking long acting insulins and shitloads of exogenous insulin is not only a great way to kill your peripheral insulin receptor sensitivity/affinity but also a great way to shut down the beta cells on the islands of langerhans (the actual glands on the pancreas that secrete insulin). End of Rant..... | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 310 |
Nah, I read in musclemag that they are on cell-tech. When they want to cut up they use hydroxycut, which has been tested to be more effective then clen.  | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 6 |
Ha Ha Ha Ha That's a good one E M T! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 205 |
EMT THAT IS SOME FUNNY SHIT!! HAHA..I HEARD NITRO-TEC WAS BETTER THAN DECA AND GH?? PEACE ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 53 |
yeah why the hell dont these guys just admit to taking massive amounts of A/S? I also read the interview with lee priest,he said that he only took primo ,deca and a little gh. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 195 |
I'm w/ EMT I only use MUSCL TECH and I make Kovacs look like a GEEK......lol | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1063 |
Way to much (health wise) ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Novice
Posts: 10 |
i think my muscle tech is fake. i dont look like kovacs???? hahaha | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 411 |
"but taking long acting insulins and shitloads of exogenous insulin is not only a great way to kill your peripheral insulin receptor sensitivity/affinity but also a great way to shut down the beta cells on the islands of langerhans (the actual glands on the pancreas that secrete insulin)." YMK, while I agree with your statement concerning insulin sensitivity, I do not think that there is evidence of beta cell down-regulation. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 107 |
I really loved the article that Preist stood in for with T-mag. However, even though the guy is a genetic freak, I don't believe his claims on amounts of AS or lack of consistancy. i.e.(Leaving a loaded syringe laying around full of winny) Winny is an EOD drug not a haphazard take it when you feel like it drug. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 664 |
MUSCLETECH!!!!! ------------------  | ||
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Novice
Posts: 4 |
Well, For what it's worth I think insulin is the main reason for the explosion of growth in the past few years. I used to talk to Duchaine before he died and he was of the same opinion. At the moment the longer acting Humalin N is the favorite, but you must be very careful to eat at the right times. As far as IGF1 goes the r3 receptor grade is the only one to use but I'm not sure that it works that well. I have access to it and although I've never used it not too many guys really like it. On the other hand I've seen a couple of my friends get pretty F---en huge off of insulin. Insulin is no more dangerous than roids or aspirin it's just that it takes allot less to kill you. The only reason I would not recommend using it was if the person taking it did not understand what he or she would be taking. Remember Dorian back in in 93? That transformation was due to insulin thanks to the Guru. Peace | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 741 |
Besides Cell Tech, of course, many are taking plasma expanders such as albumin | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 310 |
Bro's, keep this one on the down low, but I've heard a lot of the new guys are just blowing up from converting their jars of liquid creatine into enemas. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 673 |
Cockdezl, Its true there isnt any hard data in regards to the downregulation of the beta cells. I guess I am drawing an hypotheses from the people (like Alphie Newman) who used too much thyroid medication and now are stuck on it or came off and got fat as a whale. I am going to look into this but I have a feeling,as I had said earlier any evidence I get to lend creedence to my argument will be anecdotal and sporadic at best. If you know of any refences or where to check anything out let me know. ------------------ | ||
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Moderator 
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I would argue that beta cell down regulation is not an issue, other wise type II diabetics- whose diabetes is related to insulin insensitivity and who actually produce more insulin than the average person- would experience beta cell down regulation, which as far as I know they do not. An increase in Islets of Langerhans mass is found in a number of physiological states associated with "insulin resistance." Type I diabetes, which results in the inactivation/"destruction" of pancreatic beta cells, has been theorized to be an auto immune disease. I have seen no evidence that insulin itself or its overabundance has been implicated in even type I diabetes. In fact, exogenous insulin has been used in animals inhibit pancreatic beta cell "destruction".
I personally think that the short term side effect, extremely low blood sugar, is something to be more worried about. peace
[This message has been edited by macrophage69alpha (edited October 16, 2000).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 632 |
I HAVE AN PRO A/S STACK SOMEWHERE..ILL FIND IT AND POST IT. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 110 |
as for what the pro's use its safe to say a ton of stuff. I personally knew a guy who was not a pro taking 2cc of durateston per day but thats another point. The thing about bodybuilding is longevity how many gus can you see still around competeing? example what ever happened to eddie robinson? Don Long was in the hospilal because his liver failed and he is no longer competing. I am sure most pros use above average amounts of the juice, remember its not how much per say but how many differeent drugs one uses at a time if you are using only 2000 mg of test per week and your buddy is using 400mg deca,700mg equipoise, 150mg of anadrol per day, and 500mg sustanon you can bet your buddy willmake far better gains than you will.. just my 2 cents | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 95 |
The pro's are taking enormous amounts of drugs. As for them getting the steroids cheaper than anyone else that is because they buy in bulk, 10's of 1000's of $'s at a time. I've heard from other internet sites that some of the professional bodybuilders deal as well, in order to make even more money for their own stack. On another internet site, sorry can't remember the name, but it had an interview with a British Bodybuilder who said that at one contest he asked another competitor how much money he had spent on drugs preparing for the contest? The first guy told the second that he had spent about �6000 approx $9,000 the second guy replied �24,000 or approx $39,000. I heard about one pro female who spends up on $10,000 on drugs for each contest. So they are all using a shit load of drugs. What annoys me the most is when some pro starts saying things like "Bodybuilding is 80% nutrition" Ok nutrition is an important point, but if it is 80% of the equation then why do they have to spend $10,000 or $20,000 on drugs to compete. If you were to take things in a monetary perspective you would probably find that 80% of a pro's contest money goes on drugs and the other 20% goes on food. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
If you all think that the top pro bodybuilders are just taking Muscletech products like Cell-tech and Hydroxcuts then you are all in the dark.These guys will and have taken anykind of anaobolic steroid there is to get the kind of physique they have today. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 278 |
Actually, I heard that Kevin Levrone is diabetic. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 949 |
I dunno Magic Storm, I think they just take creatine. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 268 |
theres no point talking about it pros take everything and they never come off of the gear most off emm of been on for 10 years or more. | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 41 |
Most pros are on more gear than the average user, however, I KNOW that some including Lee Priest are not on much compared to the others. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 41 |
Oh yeah, Dennis James, he's juiced to the hilt. Wait till you see him this weekend. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 17 |
I think it's more a function of them never really coming off, or if they do come off it is for a small fraction of when they are on. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 53 |
Actually, I heard they just train real hard and take lots of supplements like Twin Lab and Joe Wieder's weight gainer. I never heard that Pro's use AS, at least I don't think so. For that matter, nor do pro-football, baseball, hockey and anyother pro or collegiate atheletes. . .Just ask them(LOL) | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 919 |
I think the pros use lots of drugs obviously but the major difference is that they don't come off. Just think everytime you come off how much you lose. I know I always lose some mass. If we didn't lose mass when comming off then all those cycles at 20-30lbs gains per cycle would make us all 300lbs monsters... So try not comming off and being a juicer for 10+ years topped off with good genetics, diet, training and recup and you get a pro... Also they have the founds to take the gear and GH. I think the average pro doesn't take more than 2-3g a week... ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 465 |
Maybe Lee Priest uses less than everyone else, but that article where he said the most he ever uses is 200mg/wk of deca and primo (or whatever it was) is total horseshit! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 161 |
Coleman is using MuscleTech. That's right!! He told me so!!! | ||
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Novice
Posts: 7 |
there is a lot of info out on the stack that Andreas Munzer was taking bbefore he died. It was f**cking amazing. if someone knows where to find that info it might make for a good reply to this post-Tomo |
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posted October 14, 2000 08:10 PM