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FakingIt

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posted October 14, 2000 03:41 PM

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As I mentioned some time back I was going to order some HGh from a Chinese source that is fairly well known here (can I mention the names moderators?). Their price is really good $13.50 for 4 IU when ordering less then 100 vials. The price goes down with larger orders.

The delivery was real slow - it took 2 weeks to get here from the time I ordered. This worried me since human growth hormone is somewhat heat sensitive and within the last 2 weeks there have been days over 100 degrees F (I live in the Phoenix AZ area).

They told me it was packaged in a special way that allowed them to ship it successfully in the summer to Thailand and other warm places. I was really surprised to find the contents of the package still noticeably cool when I opened it today. I can tell you the exact temperature shortly as I am having someone measure it now with a lab thermometer that is sensitive to 1/10 of a degree. So their packaging is really good at keeping the product cool.


Monday I will send a 4 IU vial to a lab at a well known USA medical school that only does hormone assays. They are going to evaluate if it is HGH, if it is active, and what the concentration is (is it 4 IU or not). I will let you know the results when I get them. If it is quality stuff and is delivered viable then it is a real good deal. It has no preservative so the contents once reconstituted have to be used within 48 hours.

It was not stopped by customs. I was not worried about this since I had a prescription from a US doctor in my posession. But it was not stopped or opened etc. It was a really clean delivery.


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ROIDRANGER

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posted October 14, 2000 03:50 PM

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i might of missed something here, but what is the point of your thread anyway?

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FakingIt

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posted October 14, 2000 04:05 PM

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Some people are interested in knowing how valid certain sources are. Several people knew I was going to order from this company and were interested in the results. I was posting this so people could have some information on which to base a decision as to whether they would order from this source. As people are reluctant to part with hard earned money, but also skeptical of deals that seem too good to be true - I wanted to let people knwo what results I got with this company so they might know of either a good source or a source to avoid. I know this was carefully veiled in my message and so understand your inability to understand it. Hopefully this will spell it out for you so that you do not need a cryptographer to understand it


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ROIDRANGER

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posted October 14, 2000 04:15 PM

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sorry i hurt your feelings there fellow, was just making sure you werent advertising or source posting!

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@LRG

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posted October 14, 2000 04:17 PM

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keep us posted, cause i been thinking of trying GH lately, and would also like to know the quality of it.

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jersey boy

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posted October 14, 2000 05:31 PM

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Faking It, Bro get an e-mail addy so we can chat. I am very interested in your results!!!

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Jake Deman

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posted October 14, 2000 06:14 PM

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Thanks for taking the time to post and do all that "leg work". I have been thinking of ordering from them but I was worried about customs/refrigeration..

You mention that you ordered the "4iu". When i contacted them they had really good prices on 16iu. Is there a reason you only got the "4". Thanks


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Your_Moms_Kneepads

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posted October 14, 2000 10:16 PM

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Faking it, thats helpful to alot of people. Good info. Keep us upadated

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dahmer

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posted October 14, 2000 10:26 PM

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Couldn't you use a pregnacy kit to see if it is real??? as per Anabolics2000


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wizardnor

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posted October 15, 2000 03:02 AM

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same here keep us posted, cause i been thinking of trying GH lately, and would also like to know the quality of it.

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kryptonite

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posted October 15, 2000 11:02 AM

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BUMP!!!!


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oeffler

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posted October 15, 2000 12:35 PM

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How difficult/expensive is it to get a medical school( or anyone else who would know how ot do this) to tell you the activity and concentration.


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jersey boy

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posted October 15, 2000 12:38 PM

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Dahmer, isn't that for HCG?

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FakingIt

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posted October 15, 2000 04:18 PM

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Jake Deman, You ask why I ordered the 4 IU vials? The size I would order depends on how much you will use in a 48 hour period. The next time I order I will be ordering the 8 IU vials. If you are going to use 16 Iu in a 48 hour period then great. But the Chinese company I am using does not have any preservative in the product so it is only good for 48 hours after reconstituting. Some forms of Genotropin and Saizen and others have a preservative so they can stay good for 2 - 3 weeks in a refrigerator. But this Chinese brand is only good for 48 hours after mixing no matter the size of the vial.

The temperature of the package was 72.4 degrees fahrenheit. This unfortunately was not taken right when I opened it but a few hours later as an afterthought. My next shipment I will be more careful. This is pretty good considering its been over 100 degrees here many days lately. As a comparison Saizen can be stored before mixing at 59-86 F without any loss of potency.

The reason I don't have an E mail addy : because I am not a source and am often really really abrasive and know I would get both alot of hate mail and a lot of requests for information or products. I really want neither.

How hard is it to get a med school to analyze a product : well you gotta be somewhat careful. If you are not careful (remember many of you are taking illegal drugs) you might as well call a lab and say "Hey I have some heroin and want it analyzed to see if it is any good". I am a med student now and am actually writing a paper. The paper is about how valid inexpensive foreign sources of Growth Hormone are. It is a paper I plan on publishing. I have a medical prescription for HGH so what I am doing is legal. But there are a few labs that would do it - IF YOU SPEAK THE LANGUAGE. If you sound "doctorly" they probably would not question your request. But alot of 'speaking the language" is all about simply giving a reason that sounds good, and NOT anything dealing with good sound reason.

Why not get a home pregnancy kit : This is a good easily available method for making sure it is not HCG. However this does not gaurantee that it is HGH. It could still be many other substances. It is true that the most common substance used to fake HGh is HCG, but a truly enterprising rip off artist would know this already and use some other substance (powdered sugar?) so as not to trigger any alarms. Also even if you know a product is HGH, you also want to know other things like is it viable (will it work) and what the concentration is (is a vial labeled 4 IU really 4 IU or is it 2 IU or even less).

Side note : many of you know I had some liver problems a few weeks ago due to some anabolics. Milk thistle did not help me. 4 weeks of Calcium-D-Glucarate and L-Glutathione and my liver values returned completly to normal. My ALT (SGPT ) liver values were an amazing 351 on 9/11/2000. This is roughly 10 times normal values - this is hepatitis high. Really bad. My MD that I consult with (who has done numerous cycles of steroids himself and competed in bodybuilding) was really shocked and told me it would be a long time for the values to return to normal. He is even more amazed that on 10/12/00 my ALT (SGPT) was now 44. The nutritional stuff really worked (which I think kind of shocked my personal MD).

I will let you all know what the lab results are when I get them. HGH is really expensive and the Chinese products are at least affordable for many, but you want to make sure its not just a bunch of crap you are buying.

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FakingIt

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posted October 15, 2000 04:30 PM

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Disclaimer. My post regarding HGH is purely academic. It is not meant to encourage anyone to buy HGh illegally. I am simply posting information that will also be (hopefully) published and available to the public in a medical journal. It is important for people to know the quality of foreign products since HGH for medical purposes (anti aging) is becoming increasingly popular and some may turn to foreign sources. It is only in the medical interest of the public that I offer this information.


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