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GETTN'BIG

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posted October 14, 2000 07:29 AM

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hey guys, what would be the ultimate short cycle? let me know what you think. list them with the dosages,(in cc's). thanks


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Gettinhard

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posted October 14, 2000 07:55 AM

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ultimate short cycle as follows::::::::::

7000mg of sus250 for 6 weeks

200mg of dbol aday for 4weeks

5 abombs a day for 6 weeks

there you go bro i hope you can grow on this.

LOLOLOLOLOL

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WODIN

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posted October 14, 2000 08:49 AM

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I just finished 6 abombs a day for 5 weeks. It rocked! I was an ugly deamon in the gym and I am going to do another one in about four weeks. I have some solid gains from this sound round two is just around the corner. Clomid is now my best friend...

I was planning on six weeks but my last was a little short but I said fuck it and went!


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WinDec

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posted October 14, 2000 09:02 AM

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Here is one possibility; it is on the expensive side, but it should work well and be almost entirely side-free:

Day..Test Prop..Clomid..Arimidex..Oxandrolone
1....600mg.......600mg....4mg...............
2...................100......1...............
3....300..........100......1...............
4...................100......1...............
5....300..........100......1...............
6...................100......1...............
7....300..........100......1...............
8...................100......1...............
9...................100......1...............
10..................100......1.....45mg(TID)
11..................100......1.....45..(TID)
12..................100......1.....45..(TID)
13..................100......1.....45..(TID)
14..................100......1.....20(AM)...
15..................100............20(AM)...
16..................100............20(AM)...
17..................100............20(AM)...
18..................100............20(AM)...
19..................100............20(AM)...
20..................100.....................
21-28................50.....................
29-42.....................................

[This message has been edited by WinDec (edited October 14, 2000).]


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Wanderer

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posted October 14, 2000 10:55 AM

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How short of a cycle are you talking? Two weeks or something a bit longer? Also, what kind of gains are you looking for as well as side effects? Give some more specifics and if you are talking about the 2on/4off cycles I can probably help you out.

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Mrfox

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posted October 14, 2000 11:05 AM

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If I was to take 50mg dbol/day(2 weeks) with, I don't know, something fast acting. Would I gain a lot of wather from the dbol, in that short time, 2 weeks, or Is 2 weeks to short to gain any wather...? (Don't know when the wathergain can be seen, that's why I ask). I'm of course talking about the 2/4 system(method)


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GETTN'BIG

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posted October 14, 2000 04:11 PM

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hey wanderer i was talking about the 2 on and 4 off cycle. i was thinking about winstrol and test propinate. what do you guys think. im not sure about the dosages. if any one knows how much to take, please list it. also could you list it in cc's. mgs confuse me... hehehehehe. LETS TRY AND KEEP THIS ONE GOING IN ORDER TO GET SOME GOOD INFO. also what kinda gains do you guys think i should expect.


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Pharm Animal

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posted October 14, 2000 04:32 PM

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listed in mg's....LEARN YOUR DOSAGE CONVERSIONS!!!!

day...testprop...winny
1.....300........150
2.....***........50
3.....150........50
4.....***........50
5.....150........50
6.....***........50
7.....150........50
8.....***........50
9.....150........50
10....***........50
11....150........50
12....***........50
13....***........***
14....***........***

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P.A.


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big dog

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posted October 14, 2000 04:40 PM

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Bulking:
Prop-------D-bol----nandrolone Phenyl
200mg Eod---6/day---200mg twice a week
200mg Eod---6/day---200mg twice a week
200mg Eod---5/day---200mg twice a week

Cutting
Winny------halo-----Trenbolone
50mgEd-----25mg/day---300mg/week
50mgED-----25---------300mg/week
50mgED-----20---------300mg/week

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GETTN'BIG

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posted October 14, 2000 05:09 PM

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thanks guy,but how many cc's does it taketo get the required dosages you prescribed. dont flame me for this, im still learning and trying to educate myself before i do anything


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted October 14, 2000 05:15 PM

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It should state**mg per ml.1ml=1cc.


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Maverik

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posted October 14, 2000 10:40 PM

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Gettinhard, perhaps you should have read Huck's post on misconceptions about short cycles. What you have described is not a "true" short cycle.


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Wanderer

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posted October 14, 2000 10:55 PM

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Glad to see you jump in on this one, Mav. As some of you may have guessed by now, my personal favorite 2/4 cycle would involve primo and winny. Day 1 would be 1000mg of primo, and 300mg's or so of winstrol. The winstrol would be continued at 50-100mg eod, with 300mg's of primo on days 4, 7, and 10. In addition, at the end of these two weeks I would continue to take the winstrol at 50mg eod, but ORALLY AND SPLIT INTO TWO 25MG DOSAGES BEFORE NOON so as to maintain the gains while keeping inhibition at bay.
However, back to your original question of wanting a cycle with test prop. and winstrol. I think that Pharm Animal's cycle looks right on the money, except I would still continue the winstrol for another 2 weeks ORALLY in the manner I described above. I think that you will find that this is a little trick of the trade that will help you get the most bang for your buck while using the 2on/4off system. Good luck!

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GETTN'BIG

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posted October 15, 2000 07:06 AM

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thanks alot guys for helping me out!!! is there a benefit to taking winny orally as opposed to injecting it? also who makes a legit propinate and winstrol. i ad some prop from brovel, but sold it cuz i had just gotten it for a friend. and how much should i expect to pay for this( test prop and winstrol) i shouldnt need clomid or nolva, should i?


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GETTN'BIG

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posted October 16, 2000 05:47 AM

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