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Oliver Clothesoff

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posted October 13, 2000 10:33 PM

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Hello everybody. I just want to introduce my self and say thank you, in advance, for all the knowledgable input. I think I've got this worked out pretty good, I just need some knowledgable opinions. I have been training seriously for 3 years. I'm 5' 10" and weigh 210-215 with approx. 15% BF. Here is what I came up with for my first cycle:

Deca---Sustanon---Clomid
Week 1 400mg--500mg-------------
Week 2 400mg--500mg-------------
Week 3 400mg--500mg-------------
Week 4 400mg--500mg-------------
Week 5 400mg--500mg-------------
Week 6 400mg--500mg-------------
Week 7 400mg--500mg-------------
Week 8 400mg--500mg-------------
Week 9 -------------------------
Week 10--------------------100mg ED
Week 11--------------------50mg ED
Week 12--------------------50mg ED

Any advice would be very helpful. Thank you for your time.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted October 13, 2000 10:58 PM

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First of all let me just say that your handle gave me a good chuckle...clever.That being said,what you have is a classic deca/sustanon stack,ran for the correct amount of time.The only thing that could possibly be added(if you want to speed up the growth process)is some dianabol,at 30mgs/daily for the first 4 weeks.Looks good though,good luck.


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Oliver Clothesoff

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posted October 13, 2000 11:11 PM

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Thank you for the input Huck. I really enjoy reading all your posts. You bring an element to the table that I think SOMETIMES is missing from forums such as this. Don't want to ruffle any feathers.

Anyway, 1 statement, and two quick questions for you Huck. First the statement. I was going to hold of on the D-Bol until my second cycle. I may be getting way ahead of myself here, considering i haven't even started the first, but I was planning on a cycle similar in length to this one, with identical Sus. dosages, EQ insted of Deca, and a 4 week D-bol jump start in the beginning. Sorry, I was sidetracked.

Now two questions:

1. Does the clomid set-up look ok, and could I carry it out 1 more week at 50mg EOD, or would that be a waste of time?

2. Could I carry out the Deca an extra two weeks, bumping the clomid back as well, or would that be a waste also.

Once again thank you for the valuable input.


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superdave

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posted October 13, 2000 11:17 PM

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You could carry the deca two more weeks then bump the clomid, the sust will still be active at that point as well so its good.

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted October 13, 2000 11:22 PM

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Superdave is correct.The sust will have active esters in your bloodsteam until about 3 weeks after the last injection,so it would be okay to run the deca for a couple of additional weeks and bump the clomid pattern back an additional week or so.


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Oliver Clothesoff

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posted October 13, 2000 11:26 PM

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So assuming I carry the Deca out to 10 weeks, start taking the clomid week 12? Also, what did you think about that additional week of clomid at 50mg EOD, overkill?


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted October 13, 2000 11:30 PM

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Yeah,if you start it at week 12,the EOD part is probably unnecessary.


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Oliver Clothesoff

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posted October 13, 2000 11:35 PM

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But with that set up of AS with the Deca at 10 weeks, we both concur that week 12 IS the appropriate time right? Sorry to be such a bother Huck. At least I gave you a chuckle to begin with.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted October 13, 2000 11:40 PM

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Yeah that would be just about right on the money,as I believe sust will completely run itself out of your system at the 3-1/2 week mark,and deca,I believe is two weeks,so that should be perfect.


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ghans

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posted October 13, 2000 11:42 PM

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Looks like the stack I'm about to start. Huck will disagree on this but I'll be taking clomid eod throughout and post cycle as you have. I have nolvadex on hand in case of gyno symptoms. I hope you have some as well. Looks solid and keep us posted.

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kosfer

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posted October 13, 2000 11:57 PM

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I just have a question on that cause I'm planning a similar cycle.
In case gyno shows up how can one know if it is from the deca or the sus? More importantly, what do you do? Lets say it happens on the 4th week. Lower the deca and start nolvadex?
How about adding winny to the cycle?


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ghans

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posted October 14, 2000 12:20 AM

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I don't know if there is any way to tell if it's from test or deca. Aromitization of test to estrogen is a more common cause of gyno, however gyno can be caused by elevated progesterone from the deca in some users. Usually dose related at 400mg+ per week. Winny may help progesterone induced gyno I have been told. I suppose the safest thing is to have all on hand just in case.

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