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lomaximo

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posted October 13, 2000 02:58 PM

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I have done coke a couple of times while on. I actually find as long as I still keep drinking the water and eating protein I look pretty vascular the day after. I have heard of pros using it to cut up. Not that this is a concern of mine. I was just wondering what you guys do if anything while on. I prefer it over drinking if I am going to party.....no dehydration and feeling like shit the next day, (atleast for me).

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E2

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posted October 13, 2000 03:00 PM

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Congratulations on your coke habit!!!

Honestly taking coke and other drugs while on is one of the stupidest things you could ever do you yourself.


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lomaximo

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posted October 13, 2000 03:04 PM

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sure, i understand your opinion, and I thank you for the insight. I by no means have a coke problem (sniff sniff, haha) but i was just wondering. I only did it twice on a 12 week cycle. And yes I know this doesn't justify it. Seriously, thanks for the reply e2


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lawnsaver

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posted October 13, 2000 03:08 PM

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the only party drug I would think about using would be ghb. But that is bad also because, most ghb is made in somebody's basement. So be careful


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jdismukes

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posted October 13, 2000 03:12 PM

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Are you a bodybuilder or a druggie? It ain't cool to do coke, find out who you are.


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1911

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posted October 13, 2000 03:16 PM

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To each his own but...

If you are going to take the time & effort to research & plan, make the expense, expose yourself to the risks of purchase/possession etc. Why would you not do everything possible to completely maximize your "on time?" A disciplined lifestyle re: diet, sleep, routines, etc. is not that difficult for a 8, 10, or 12 - week (or whatever) period of time. Do it right, then fuck around during your off time if that's what you want to do. You asked so just another .02 cents.

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lomaximo

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I dont want to get off on the wrong foot here. I was just curious becasue I have read alot of guys on this board doing ecstacy and stuff......so i was just wondering. No, I am not a druggie but I am still in college so it is around me. YES, I am a BODYBUILDER, and OCCASIONALLY I enjoy myself RESPONSIBLY. Others are spending money at the bar or on coke (honestly I have never spent money on it)or on other drugs and i am buying protein, groceries, and gym fees.

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jdismukes

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Bro, just be careful. I fell into that trap, it started out getting turned on for free, then I was buying it, and buying it, and buying it. Just be cool with it, hell its friday have fun. I used to do coke and the next day I felt more vascular but it was all a scam. Best Wishes.


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lomaximo

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posted October 13, 2000 03:59 PM

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thanks for the insight j, i appreciate it


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Geared

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Be carefull with the coke and drinking, if it wasn't for B/B i would be dead or on the streets wishing i was dead, the irongame has changed my life and i don't drink or do drugs anymore, sometimes it sucks to watch other but hell i'm almost thirty you got to grow up sometime, i would hold off while on bro, party up on your off time! Mixing substances that raise your bp can't be healthy!


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CLEMDOG

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I dont think doing drugs a few times while 'on' a cycle isnt necessarily going to hurt you, just do it responsibly. It also depends on what type of drugs you are looking to do when on. Drinking should be avoided pretty much all the time, coke I'm not sure, never have done it. I'm not on a cycle right now, but I'm in college also, and my roommates smoke alot of weed so it is always around me and I dont have to pay for it and have been smoking about 4-5 times a week and have noticed my workouts are suffering. I've been short of breathe after sets and my heart rate is higher than normal, so im definitely cutting down.

Just be careful and keep everything to a minimum.


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dieselnj

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posted October 13, 2000 04:36 PM

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I have done coke and X while on my cycle. It helped with the cutting, but drugs are bad. I am going to law school next year, so my juvenile drug taking days are gone.

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posted October 13, 2000 04:37 PM

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I started lifting because I am compulsive, and needed something to take the place of coke. I had a real problem, and it started very inocent with just a little, .25 gram, at a party. To each their own, but I THINK ANY COKE IS WAY TO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't use bodybuilding to justify either.

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posted October 13, 2000 04:51 PM

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Coke, no not anymore. Been clean for the past 12 or so years. Drinking, well drinking is a horse of a different color. While I don't imbibe often, I would however drink the hell out the night if you could fit it in a glass.

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Fish

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I was talking to mightymouse1 just now on the phone... he mentioned how buff crackheads tend to be. I think coke is a great idea...

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mrjeremy

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posted October 13, 2000 05:00 PM

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just take everything in moderation and understand that we are all druggies on this board exchanging one high for another.


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Fish

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posted October 13, 2000 05:05 PM

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I strongly disagree with the term "druggy" for juice. I was a "druggy" for 6 years, no care about health. Then life was a search for a buzz.


NOT THE SAME THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Omega44

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i used to be pretty big into party drugs, like drinking, smoking weed, smoking/snorting coke, i even did shrooms a couple of times. To tell u the truth i dont do any drugs at all anymore and u know what soberd me up, it was AS. at one party i ate a halfquarter of shrooms, 8 beers, a halfquarter of weed, and an 8-ball of coke (this was over new years eve) i was also on 750mg of sust and 6tabs of d-bol. well to make a long story short everything was fine until the end of the night i almost slipped into a coma i kept passing out and shit. my face was SO white and i had like tremors. this happend last new years eve and since then ive stopped drugs altogether, havnt touched anything since and never will. People say that AS ruins lives well i think it saved mine cause i was doing drugs like that since i was in grade 9. Thats why i get pissed of when people bad mouth Juice that shit saved me.


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I NEVER DRINK ANYWAY...
FEELS SHITTY, NOR DO I DO "DRUGS"..
EXCEPT GBL...


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lomaximo

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thanks for all of the replies. i appreciate it, really. I am my own person and obviously have my own opinions as you do yours. I just wanted to see if i was way out of line experimenting once in a while. all of your guys' insights have helped alot. I thank you bros

lomaximo


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mightymouse1

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i will not lie and say i have not done drugs. (i dont now) i will say i would never touch coke and if i did i would not do so and then be so naive or stupid to say "I by no means have a coke problem (sniff sniff, haha)" if you do it, you have a problem. if you deny that you have a bigger prob. and to say sniff sniff ha ha, that aint fuckin funny man i have been around a lot of crack heads and i never mistook on of them for a bodybuilder. i am also in college and i do not have any coke around me. i am not trying to be your mother but i was amazed to read this post. so i guess my advice would be dont do coke, if you want to do coke dont worry about the gym or what you look like. it's your life man, thats just my opinion


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posted October 13, 2000 06:57 PM

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if your all juiced up and want to party a bit once in awhile then i would have to say ghb would be the drug of choice!

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Curious II

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posted October 13, 2000 07:03 PM

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My opinion:

You tried it now you know. It really is a stupid thing to use an upper while taking something that is basically an upper...it increases blood pressure for sure. If your not careful you really could kill yourself or just fuck yourself up. It's only twelve weeks. Suck it up and get serious during those twelve weeks and refrain from the partying drugs. You do have to make a choice which is more important because the two really do not mix. I am not condemning you like some of these "my shit don't stink, I would never do that" people seem to be doing. But I wouldn't recomend doing that anymore.

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Bchemist

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I only drink to be sociable, otherwise I hate it. I feel like shit when I drink, and even worse the next day. I'm severly allergic to smoke, especially Marijuana. And I have no respect for anyone who trips, does coke or heroin. People who do those drugs are only making the situation with AS and the law worse. I consider an AS user and a recreational drug user to be two completely different things.


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Loco71

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posted October 13, 2000 08:37 PM

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why is everybody bashing drug users? your no better,an addict is an addict man sticking a needle in your ass with A/S is also a gamble,Im not defending coke heads just answer the mans question without going into details about your morals!


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posted October 13, 2000 09:28 PM

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Well done Loco, well done.

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I did alot of drinking and weed when I was young. Never again will I go back to that shit. It is because of that shit that I am in my sixth year of high school and will graduate at age 20. I take gbl about every night, and may even stop that.


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posted October 13, 2000 11:10 PM

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I read somewhere that the pros uses coke.


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Hey Lomaximo

I've done acid, coke, extacy, drank half a bottle of vodka and smoked enough pot to kill an ox...all in one night while juicing. I did'nt die and at the same time looked better than everyone else. That was a while back. The bottom line is your blood pressure would probably go through the roof. You can do what ever you want when ever you want. You are probably a big boy. There is nothing worse than listening to people on drugs bash other people on other drugs. I'm 31 years old now. Still have all my hair, nice skin, lots of energy and even find the time to do volunteer work.....I don't party much anymore but still look forward to every time I can do some meth or X and have sex all night. Even if I was to die, at least I felt unbelievably good in this short life. I'll never lay on my death bed and say "man I'm glad I didn't do any roids or other drugs and I'm glad I got all my bills paid." Remember.. Elite Fitness is a support group...just like any other.


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AS are drugs just like any other... People take drugs because they enjoy their effects... Whether that effect is a floating high, a hallucination, or a 20 inch bicep is irrelevant to me.

To each his or her own... The decision to use any drug is a personal one, and shouldn't be moralized by anybody but the one holding the needle or the pipe or whatever.

It's all about making a RESPONSIBLE, INFORMED decision. (ie - holding off on party drugs while on-cycle to spare the blood pressure)

Isn't this board here to enable people to make responsible, informed decisions regarding their health?


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I've done em all at one point or another. I just have a curious nature and don't believe in bashing anything until I've tried it myself. How do think I got into AS. Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with partying a little bit as long as you know what you can handle and practice moderation. One night of partying in not going screw up your entire cycle.


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Be careful bro. Coke is known to be habit forming. Hey, I won't knock drugs, I smoke pot and have an occasional drink and I use AS. I used to do every drug under the sun and my life was a mess. Much better now. Good luck.

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The only thing I mess with is a little weed. Not often (anymore) though, usually once or maybe twice a month. I am trying to quit, though, and get my shit together.


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lomaximo

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Thanks for all the replies guys. By posting this post I was by no means trying to justify my actions, I was just curious as to your experience/opinions. To all who called me a druggie or a dude with problems, you have no clue and you dont know a thing about me. To all who gave me JUST their opinions, thanks again.

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My advice is to never do it again. It is a highly addictive drug and will take your life from you and make you lose control of yourself. I have personally witnessed what it can do to someone's life. Even occasionally isn't cool. No flame bro, just trying to offer some advice...


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lomaximo

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thanks maverick, I am not going to do it again, it is not worth it. To tell you the truth, an ECA stack makes me feel the same and it is less dangerous

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We are all young at one time, we all experiment to one degree or another, and MOST of us are drug users of one kind or another (AS, cigs, alcohol, coffee, coke, whatever).

Just know your body - be careful and do what's best for you. Eventually you WILL find out (one way or the other) that shit like coke and X are all nowhere near worth the risks involved. That shit CANNOT be compared with anabolics, so guys that are comparing the two in here are barking up the wrong tree. Products like X and cocaine, heroin, etc are all PRODUCTS designed to get you addicted, spend money, and make foreign drug families rich. It's a sick, wicked game to which I've lost a few friends and a girlfriend that I loved. EVERYBODY starts small and "doesn't have a problem." The problem sneaks up on you.

My take - most of us do AS because we want to be at the top of our game physically. I lump it into my entire life, I want to be the most dominant, best that I can be in everything. If I am snorting coke and doing X, I am fucking my head all up (YES...that is what you are doing) and therefore cannot be at the top of my game mentally. To me, that's a priority, to others it might not be.

Just be careful bros.

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Coke will up your blood pressure, which would already be elevated from your cycle. This is the biggest short term danger. Too many lines in one night and you could find yourself having a cardiac. IronMike


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Lets look at this from a different perspective.

IF DRUGS LIKE COCAINE, HEROIN, CANNABIS, AND MDMA WERE LEGAL, REGULATED, UNADULTERATED- WOULD BEING ADDICTED TO THEM REALLY BE A PROBLEM?

THIS IS NOT TO SAY THAT ADDICTION IS A VERY POSITIVE MODE OF BEING, HOWEVER OUR SOCIETY IS ADDICTED TO MANY THINGS, EXERCISE, SEX, CAFFEINE, NICOTINE, EVEN WORK- ASIDE FROM THE OBVIOUS SOCIAL PROBLEMS THAT LEAD TO ADDICTIVE OR COMPULSIVE BEHAVIOURS IS THE ADDICTION TO DRUGS ANY WORSE?

DRUGS, IN GENERAL, ARE MOST ADDICTIVE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE PRONE TO ADDICTION/COMPULSIVE BEHAVIOUR, MAKING THEM ILLEGAL JUST PUNISHES PEOPLE FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO COPE WITH THE SOCIAL PRESSURES OF SOCIETY.

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i think it is a contradiction in terms to say "use cocaine responsibly" or " use x responsibly". these actions are never "responsible" in my opinion.
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posted October 15, 2000 09:17 PM

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I've done E while on the shit and I don't recommend it to anyone. If your going to do the gear then do it right.


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I can tell you that AS and Party drugs are not the same.Been in rehab ,now an outpatient.Doctors dont even care about the AS because they dont cause your personality,and inhibition factor to change immediatly.I did things while high I would never do while even on 2grams of test a week.Id rather be addicted to steroids,aka muscle size,than crack anyday,and so would my ex-wife,whom I lost because of my drug problem,mood altering is fucked in my opinion.


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1st of all-X is not addictive,and this is proven in med journals.A drug is a drug-Maybe some are worse than others but they are all ILLEGAL.People are trying to justify their use.AS are drugs!I think too many feel they are more like supplements.If you are not hurting others,then all others should shut the fuck up.80% of the drugs produced end up in the US.WE have the demand.How many people in Columbia use coke? Not many!! The only reason they are illegal is the war on drugs creates $$$.Its as simple as that.Half the coke or H comes in with the help of the law........I give up......

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I have done most all rec. drugs, and have yet to use AS, but to compare AS to coke/X is ludicrous. (sp?) AS is a means to an end, a tool such as asprin, propecia, or any other presc. drug used for the express purpose of enhancing ones LIFE.

X, coke, etc...is only used to get 'fucked up' and has no redeeming value, or positive effect on your physique or health.


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Drugs are an escape... Whether using AS, coke, alcohol, etc., we want to get a certain high out of it. Just ask yourself which high will last the longest... 45 minutes of a coke high, or 20 extra pounds of muscle? Either way man, the choice is yours, and good luck.


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86

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posted October 15, 2000 11:14 PM

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You are right Macro.

I've done coke, crystal, opiates, pot, ice, methcathinone, lsd, ghb...........and many others. The only chemicals I could never kick are anabolic steroids. Can't stand to go off............gotta bridge, gotta plan.........gotta bridge,... gotta stock. With coke and the others I just quit and thought about the fun I had.

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hooch

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posted October 15, 2000 11:22 PM

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Right before I do Legs I stuff my face in a paper bag that was just sprayed with oven cleaner (AKA Pam hit).....clears my head


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duckman

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posted October 15, 2000 11:32 PM

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FUCK YEAYO!!!That shit sucks!!!
Ive done PLENTY of zipp in my days. And coke has got to be my absolute least favorite I do it about once a year. I LOVE smoking bud but after getting into wieghts i found out it lowers test so now i only do it about 2-3 times a month...I also used to deal coke and theres one thing i can say about it. STAY the fuck away once you deal it your on the other side and you see what it does to people and you realize how fucked up it is...

all drugs are bad on or off a cycle...
but if i had to choose one id choose X ive done it one time and i loved it..drugs that make you rush (BAD) shit that mellows you out (GOOD)
anyway this is the only thing i really know anything about so...coke is a no no


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freak of nature

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posted October 16, 2000 08:51 AM

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Does pot really lower your test levels??


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jlony

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posted October 16, 2000 09:38 AM

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Ghb is the only drug i like to do while on a cycle. it is non-toxic, so there's no extra strain on the liver, it raises gh levels, and you can sleep better. anyone else agree?


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JustWannaBeHuge

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posted October 16, 2000 11:52 AM

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Dude, i never did coke or any harder dope, But when I was younger, i did alot of drinking and I smoked weed on more then one occassion.
I had a serious problem with alcohol, I didn't think I was an alcoholic because I only drank on the weekends....which then turned into the weekends and a day or two during the week.
I never drank beer because I can't stand the taste, my drinks were always JD, Henny, Sammy B., vodka, Goldy.
It took me three major phuck-ups before I realized I was killing myself with alcohol, and the next time I have a black out, I might do something I regretted doing or I might not wake up.
I haven't touched a drink in over two years. =).
Leave the "party drugs" alone dude, you're into Bodybuilding to take your body to the next level in evalution, don't phuck it up by becoming an addict to coke, H, or any other BS that can destroy you in the blink of an eye.
If you need any further outlook, go into the inner cities, and check out the girls selling their ass for 5 bucks a pop, chance are they started on coke or H.
Not saying you'll sell your ass, but at the same time, drugs make people do stupid shit when they NEED that fix.

JW


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Geared

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posted October 16, 2000 12:43 PM

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Glad this is still up! Partied all weekend, eat like shit and slept 14 hours yesterday, feel like shit today!! Two days of drinking with old friends feels like it may have set back my efforts of reaching my goal two weeks, hell with the alcohol, from now on going to let the g/f be the drunk of the family!


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