Now think about it, if you drastically change your bodyweight within a short period of time your body resists the change. It thinks something strange is happening and tries to get you back to your previous weight. Now if you slowly ramp it up over time you give you body time to get used to the new mass allowing your body to accept the size and not try to revert.

So big guy (Yeah you E2), How long should the optimal cycle last?

the dangers and reported illnesses/diseases caused by gear come primarily from the very androgenic toxic drugs like anadrol, dianabol, fina, etc. and then this is because these drugs were used in huge amounts AND over long periods of time.
of course if you are intelligent about your cycles, youre not going to be on high doses of highly androgenic steroids for any great length of time. rather you would alternate, between low doses of high androgenic drugs and low doses of low androgenic drugs. this for me has been the happy medium in terms of maximizing muscle gains.

i myself use all year round. doing test for about 8 weeks followed by primobolan for 10 weeks and then switching over to perhaps deca and dianabol (dball at 10 mgs per day for 8 weeks) deca at 200-300 mg a week for 10 weeks. this would then be bridged by Primobolan. after 10 weeks of primobolan, one could throw in some eq and anavar, etc,etc. all year long.

i have not experienced any shrinkage of the testicles with my cycles. this is important in knowing whether you are doing too much.if your testes dont shrink then you can be on gear all year long just as long as you do not experience shrinkage.of course this can only be done with low doses-just enough to stay anabolic and to recover from workouts=steady gains year round.

finally, the key i think, would be to alternate between androgens and anabolics, and to keep the dosages low throughout. oh, and diet is MORE important in my opinion than gear, so get your diet right first.

-Pops

Drexx i feel that a cycle should be a min of 13 weeks but most people think i'm nuts. I don't always think this is true , newbies can get away with shorter cycles and gain some decent mass and hold on to it, as their drug use usually is a lot lighter. In using a longer cycle the drug choices become ever more important and switching them up throughout the cycle is key.

the anavar didnt make my buddy gain weight, but he became VERY strong and hard. anavar seems to be a good drug for users who dont want to gain body weight, but who are interested in strength gains. HGH aint worth a SHIT!!!!!its OVERRATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know this would be expensive, but I think you would make huge gains, and keep them. It would also be expensive. But if you can afford it, why not do the best.

Sust Dbol EQ Anavar Primo
1 500 20mg/day 300
2 500 20mg/day 300
3 500 20mg/day 300
4 500 20mg/day 300
5 500 300
6 500 300
7 500 300
8 500 300
9 30mg/day 200
10 30mg/day 200
11 30mg/day 200
12 30mg/day 200
13 30mg/day 200
14 30mg/day 200

Take Arimidex 1/4 tab EOD Weeks 2 to 10
2 weeks after Last Sust do some HCG to boost natural test.
Clomid for 2-3 weeks begining 2 weeks after last Sust shot.

The idea here is to finish with drugs that do not inhibit natural Test. Anavar is fast acting, and does not push down natural test. Primo will not either at these doses. This way you can bring natural test up while solidifying gains.

I cycle year round. thats just how its gonna have to be. though i would not even consider it if you are already balding.
of course, have blood work done every 3 weeks, and diet is very important in terms of keeping cholesterol levels low, so you cant pig out. ill keep yall updated on my weight/strength gains.

So i'd do say a 14 weeks cycle of test and high androgens etc... then start taking say eq at 500mg a week for 8 weeks or so, then get on some other high androgens etc etc..

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Jeff