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lawnsaver

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posted October 12, 2000 04:07 PM

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Which sould I use. Arimidex is so much more expensive. What are the doses for each and for how long. I know I could do my own research, but if anybody can help out for a second, I would say thanks


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The Man Child

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posted October 12, 2000 04:17 PM

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This one is like comparing Corvettes to Ford Taurus'. Spend the extra money and get the arimidex. 1/4 tab every day. Arimidex is light years ahead of nolvadex and I've used both, just incase you were wondering.


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lawnsaver

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posted October 12, 2000 04:23 PM

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I did some research and I came up with this. If you take arimidex you dont need clomid at the end of your cycle. Please feed back. The sh&t is expensive.


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The Ranger

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posted October 12, 2000 04:33 PM

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Nolvadex is a competive inhibator for the estrogen recepters, meaning that it competes for and binds to the recepters....where as Armidex is a non competive inhibator...simply put, Armidex kills the estrogen before it has a chance...

Nolvadex will supress IGF-1...and cut into gains somewhat...Armidex won't....heavy cycles, Armidex is the shit...light to medium...have Nolvadex on hand, just in case......


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lawnsaver

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posted October 12, 2000 04:37 PM

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Will I still need clomid at the end????


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The Ranger

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posted October 12, 2000 04:44 PM

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Yes...1 week after last injection 100mg's ED...the next 2 weeks at 50mg's EOD.....Later


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Burnboy

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posted October 12, 2000 04:54 PM

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use the search!!! there were 5 of tese questions in the last week


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Krusher

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posted October 12, 2000 07:32 PM

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I was gonna use the ManChild's analogy, spend the money and do it right. I'm on arimidex right now and will use it in every high-test cycle from now on.


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Upjohn

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posted October 12, 2000 07:36 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by The Ranger:
Nolvadex will supress IGF-1...and cut into gains somewhat...Armidex won't....heavy cycles, Armidex is the shit...light to medium...have Nolvadex on hand, just in case......

I think there needs to be some estrogen for muscle to build. I think arimidex will hurt gains the most.


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aky

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posted October 12, 2000 07:46 PM

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ranger...

will clomid be useless if take EOD throughout the entire cycle???

also if your taking armidex will there be needs for proviron and nolvadex.....???

thanks


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~Goku~

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posted October 12, 2000 08:27 PM

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From some research I have done. Taking clomid eod during your cycle your body can actually become used to that substance. Result, when you cycle is finished your body will be acustomed to clomid making clomid useless at the end.

~Goku~


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lawnsaver

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posted October 12, 2000 11:08 PM

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GUYS, I THANK YOU FOR ALL THE GREAT INFO. I REALLY DONT LIKE PEOPLE WHO TELL ME TO USE THE SEARCH. EVERYBODY HAS A RIGHT TO ASK A QUESTION. IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO ANSWER THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TOO. I'M SURE IF EVERYBODY WOULD USE THE SEARCH THEY WOULD FIND A THREAD FOR JUST ABOUT EVERY QUESTION ASKED. PERSONALLY WHETHER THE QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED BEFORE OR NOT, I LIKE TO RESPOND. BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE THE HELP IN RETURN. SO ANYWAY THANKS AGAIN TO ALL WHO TOOK THE TIME TO RESPOND!!!!!!


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Your_Moms_Kneepads

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posted October 13, 2000 02:41 AM

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Doses of arimidex can be 1/3 or 1/4 pill ED or better yet EOD. Upjohn felt that total estrogen supression hinders gains and to an extent he has a point. Thing is when you are using lots of test,dbol,ect you need to watch it if you are prone to gyno. Thats why i say that every other day with the arimidex is a good start. If one would need every day use they can always up it to that.
When you think about it arimidex isnt really that expensive. If you pay $10.00 per tab and use 1/4 tab thats $2.50 per dose. Most of the time nolvadex is around $1 per 10 or 20mg tablet at least on the black market. Now if you buy in Mexico then thats a different story.

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Fonz

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posted October 13, 2000 06:10 AM

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Why does everybody think that there needs to be lots of estrogen floating around to see maximal gains. I mean, theoretically speaking animals are given an androgen/estrogen combination to increase CARCASS weight(This is overrall fat+muscle+water weight), in order for there to be more edible meat. As bodybuilders we should strive for optimal muscle increase, and by letting estrogen levels go high you're going to gain a lot of WATER weight not muscle. Ok, some people will argue that this increase in intra-cellular water increases strength, but do we really want to look like the Michelin Man while on test and DBALL. By using arimidex, Novaldex, or arimidex+Novaldex, we decrease estrogen, and decrease water retention to a big degree. However, we will NOT, I repeat NOT gain less muscle while using an anti-aromatase or anti-estrogen, we will just gain less water weight. Some people get the impression that they've gained less muscle because they're muscles won't be so bloated from the estrogenic side effects.

godspeed


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