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 Okay......is the Tokkyo decca really 316 mgs? -> to anyone who REALLY KNOWS
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| Author | Topic: Okay......is the Tokkyo decca really 316 mgs? -> to anyone who REALLY KNOWS | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
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Pro Bodybuilder
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BUMP .... I NEED TO KNOW. DECAMAN!!!!!!!!! ANYONE?!!!!! | ||
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Cool Novice 
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Thats what the test results are saying. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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That is what Ttokkyo's test are saying!! alot of other boards have tested it and said it was basically rebottled Nor200. It tested at under 200. Around 180's. Who do you believe?? Just use it and see. You get a difference in opinions wherever you look.  | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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cHECK YOUR MAIL BRO!!! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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Several weeks ago, I posted on the independent lab results for many of the Ttokkyo products plus the Tornel Deca 200. Here's the link to it: https://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Archives/Forum1/09-2000/029984.html | ||
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Guru 
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Actually the 312-316 tested was NOT FROM TTOKKYO LABS IT WAS INDEPENDENT. I can't remember for sure but I believe the ttokkyos tests on its own product was just under 300? I forget. SEARCH ALL THIS INFO HAS BEEN GONE OVER. Dahmer where are all the lab results for "all the boards that are testing it"? Just because people say things doesnt mean they have the lab results, I and many other mods included on this board have seen the lab results of an Independent test for it. If you have them send them to me dahmer, otherwise I think you have been either misinformed or have listened to people who will lose money if/when everyone relizes ttokkyos are good and cheaper than alternatives. I do agree with you dhamer the glute test is the most important, and I haven't heard one bad comment from anyone using it, only good. Time will tell though.. Slopain [This message has been edited by Slopain (edited October 12, 2000).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Also, the BS that the Ttokkyo Deca 300 was just repackaged Brovel Nor 200 is a load of crap. This was propaganda spread by the low-lifes that do some indirect marketing for the Ausvet/Denkall products -- which is too bad since they make good products also. They did not have an true knowledge on this, and the several lab reports on the Ttokkyo products have shown them to be legitimate. | ||
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Moderator
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How can you suspend 300+ mg of gear into 1ml of oil ???? I'm sorry but I don't see how it is done. | ||
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Guru
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It has been already proven possible. I can't explain it but it isnt hard, I think you can *possibly* squeeze 400mg of deca in 1cc. I know for sure that 300mg of deca in 1 cc can happen, this debate came up when the product was first introduced. Slopain | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Nobody has ever gotten over 200mg per Ml in deca. Even Nor 200 tests between 193-197 so unless they came up with a new process I have a tuff time believing it ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Call it propaganda, or slick marketing, call it whatever you want. The only way to really know is to use it. But I raise this question. How many users will realize a difference in this Ttokkyo stuff compared to Nor200 or Decan200??? The average user will make gains and say it's the shit!! By shooting a 300 per cc dose will the gains be any better?? This brings it all back to the actual test. The Ttokkyo site claims the deca is slightly under 300. LOD claimed it was above. Other board's Mods claimed it was just repackaged Nor200. Who do we believe??? anyone of these could be bullshit!! There seems to be stories on every kind of gear. Like Nor200 being dirty and causing abcesses. Or nor200 being underdosed. there are bashers to every product. That is all I was trying to say. If a product works good for yourself, stick with it. | ||
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Guru
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quote: Heres the link: https://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Archives/Forum1/07-2000/022705.html Ignore all the bashing going on in this thread it was before the products had been independently tested. Slopain | ||
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Guru
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Dahmer, LOD's wasnt claiming HE HAD TEST RESULTS - THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW FOR SURE IS TEST RESULTS. You believe whoever has independent lab results and you see them with your own eyes. Science man, not opinions is what these should be based on FACTS not feelings. The facts are out there. I was very undecided when all this started b/c there were no FACTS now there are FACTS and empirical evidence as well. Your statement seems to say 'hey we can never know the truth so just do whatever works' I whole-heartedly disagree, that is the premise of this board to share FACTUAL knowledge and opinions. Slopain | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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If you have seen actual test results from a reliable source. I will trust you. I am using Nor 200 on my cycle right now. I can get Ttokkyo deca for cheaper. I will stock up on some for next time. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Just to clear a few things up. I've talked to LOD and he has test results that show Ttokkyo Deca to be legit. I have personally saw a test at 176mgs. It all depends on what you use for a baseline in these tests.Dahmer is 100% correct. Very few lifters, unless they are vets, could tell if they were shooting 200 or 300mgs of deca. It is totally possible to disolve 300mgs of deca in oil because of the longer ester. To sum up--- Ttokkyo Deca is real and I believe it is close to correct dosage.btw Gymrat, I was one that said it was repackaged Nor200,it has the same bottle and cap and the test I saw tested at the same strength as Nor200 so it was an honest mistake, but If you would like to call me a lowlife to my face please feel free to come to Chicago or I will arrange a meeting at your convenience. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Thank you! Every test has different results, who do you believe?? I am saying it again. Use what works!! Test are great unless the results vary greatly. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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SAINT: The reason for the comment was not singling out your statement, but to the crap that's been posted by Ausvet, Mike Barr/Will "Doc" Ekard/diehard_842, and the various others who continuously berated a company that turns out to be good. If you noticed, I didn't mention a thing until I personally saw the evidence from the independent lab results. Check out the Ausvet web site. The "counterfeit" screen still lists all the Ttokkyo gear as bunk, which we both know is not true. Why do they do that? It's their slimy marketing tactics. It leaves a very bad taste in my mouth that they cannot accept legitimate competition. It makes me not want to purchase their gear (for my cow, of course!) even though it has a reputation of good quality. It takes someone with balls to admit that he's wrong, and my respect for you has grown because of it. Therefore, a threat was not necessary... it was a comment based on old information. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Gymrat, I just took it personally because I was one of the most vocal. All is good my brother. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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A friend here tested it and it came out to be legit, don't know the exact number, but it was very close to 300. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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the independent lab results for the Ttokkyo nandrolone decanoate 300mg
there is another laboratoty test....from ttokkyo labs quality control and say minimum 270mg/ml nandrolone decanoate
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Pro Bodybuilder
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thanks for the replies.  | ||
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Novice 
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Thank you for posting the results on board bro. Thank God that some one did. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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I can't believe this is still being debated. |
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posted October 12, 2000 12:38 AM
