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MONSTROSITY

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posted October 11, 2000 09:24 PM

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Who cares!!!!!!!!!! Why do all these tiny men try to beat us over the head with the fact that they're natural. What is natural anyway............... where is the line drawn. There are plenty of legal supplements that provide a gray area in regards to the aforementioned claim.........


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Burnboy

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posted October 11, 2000 09:29 PM

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all these guys take creatine at least 5 grams a day, they would have to eat 10 pounds of beef a day, is that natural?


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harmonic

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posted October 11, 2000 09:42 PM

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In my opinion there is no need to tell people that you juicin. If they don't know your juicin then that makes you natural also.


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BIG HURT

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posted October 11, 2000 09:54 PM

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That's just the pencilnecks way of feeling secure.They like to tell people they are natural because they think they are accomplishing more than you.DORKS

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Omega44

Amateur Bodybuilder

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posted October 11, 2000 10:43 PM

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i think these people need to feel superior, they know they are a fraction of the size and have a fraction of the strength us juicers have, so they paraide around as natural. but the question is what is natural? they probly think if u dont take AS then ur natural? but thats bullshit because deca is totally diffrent from Test, so is deca natural then? because it doesnt have Test in it? Or do they classify natural as taking any suppliment thats not illegal. thats what it looks like. as soon as creatine is outlawed any1 taking it will be classified as an un-natural lifter. A little message to those people that are to scared to take AS, FUCK YOU AND IF WANA COME AND LECTURE ME AGAIN ON WHAT KIND OF UNHEALTHY CHOICE I MADE IN TAKING STEROIDS, WELL THEN IM GUNA HAVE TO THROUGH THIS 80LBs DUMBELL AT UR NIEVE HEAD!


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Hoss

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posted October 11, 2000 11:16 PM

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AS are a tool...Like any other tool in bodybuilding. Dumbells are a tool, so is food. Is it natural to pick up heavy weights just to put them back down again for no obvious reason? Anything you do to increase your muscle size and strength is not natural. The human body wants to do as little as possible to survive, that's why when we stop picking up heavy weights and put them back down again, or muscles and strength go down...the body just does not want to support it...THAT is natural.

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Monster

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posted October 11, 2000 11:38 PM

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...and their heros, the national level "naturals" are far from natural anyway. A little test now and then, GH... oh, yer natural alright....

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Twiggy

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posted October 12, 2000 12:08 AM

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Hold on now...

There are plenty of "natural" folk who aren't holier-than-thou, hypocritical "Natural 4-life" t-shirt wearing fools.

Like Hoss said, AS are a tool... Some choose to utilize them, some choose not to. People on BOTH sides of the AS issue need to have respect for other people's decisions.

-Twiggy ("natural" for now, but probably won't be in a few months... hehehe...)


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kryptonite

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posted October 12, 2000 01:42 PM

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TWIGGY - Ditto

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MS

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posted October 12, 2000 02:54 PM

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If you're a competitive athlete there are very clear guidelines about what is exceptable to use and what is not. People who genuinely don't use any of the IOC banned substances would be considered natural. But remember that list includes stuff like ECA. I don't think many bodybuilders can truly say they are natural by that standard! And any athlete that uses hGH, IGF-1, test etc... and claims to be natural is just a common liar. They demean sports more than the blatant steroid abuser or the genuine 'natural'.


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natural-mike

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posted October 13, 2000 08:44 AM

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Some people like to earn muscle the old fashion way, no AS, no creatine , just hard work, tuna and skim milk.

Don't hate!!


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KINGKONG69

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posted October 13, 2000 09:54 AM

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I GET SO SICK OF THESE HUGE BODYBUILDER'S IN THE MAGIZINES LIKE FLEX WHEELER CLAIMING THEY ARE ALL NATURAL, LIKE ANYONE BELIVES THAT. EVERYONE KNOWS THEY ARENT, IT JUST MAKES THEM LOOK LIKE LIAR'S. THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE MONEY OFF DOING THE SUPPLEMENT ADS.


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supersizeme

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posted October 13, 2000 11:08 AM

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bump for natural mike's response.
Look you can go back and forth on the topic of what is natural and what isn't it all day and not get anywhere because of conflict of interest...but the one thing that is undeniable is that there are some tools(e.g. AS) that you can utilize which will allow you to put on 20lbs of muscle in a couple of months. Natural in my opinion is simple - lifting, eating and sleeping. No AS, no creatine, no gh...just plain hitting the gym, shoving food down your throat, and sleeping. You say naturals have a holier than thou attitude...take a look at some of the responses on this thread. AS users are very quick to call naturals "pencilnecks" when in fact the only reason they themselves are not pencilnecks is because of juice. No need to bash someone's physique because they chose not to take the shortcut. Remember where you came from!!


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ajc

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posted October 13, 2000 11:19 AM

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I agree. But, I can show you guys a picture of a guy that has never done anything (not even andro!) that looks better than a lot of us. I would not believe him, but I live with him and I offered to sponsor him (pay for his gear) if he mentions my company at a competition...He won't consider using the gear. I'll alter a pic of him so his face is unrecognizable and post it this weekend. You guys will think he's full of shit.

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