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DICKONHARD

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posted October 10, 2000 11:38 PM

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I know this topic has been beat to death but I need some good advice. Im going to start a cycle soon consisting of 600mg Test Enanthate a week, 400mg deca a week for 8 weeks. I also have a bottle of Denkal Stanazolic on hand. Is one bottle enough or should I get another one. Most people say go with 100mg EOD. My question is would it be a waste to drink it. If not then how much & how often? When during this cycle should I incorporate the Winny for the best results. Im looking to gain around 20-25lbs of lean hard muscle while reducing bodyfat. Im afraid all that would be too much volume to inject & would cause scar tissue. The stanazolic is just too damn expensive to waste, so any advice would be greatly appreciated. Also, I did a search & didnt find what I was looking for so if anyone can point me to a informative thread Id appreciate that also. Thanks in advance.

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lawnsaver

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posted October 11, 2000 12:05 AM

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I tried drinking winny for one week and it torn up my stomach. So I'm shoting it. Try using insulin needles. Hit your delts and quads. At 100mg eod you do great.


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blistex00

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posted October 11, 2000 01:00 AM

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I agree, just inject it. I've never tried drinking it because it was made to be injected. Unless you have pills.


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cockdezl

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posted October 11, 2000 03:04 AM

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Drink it!! No one has ever given any credible reason for it to not work orally. Stanazolol is stanazolol.


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Pharm Animal

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posted October 11, 2000 04:13 AM

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i have used it both ways, and next time it will all be via intramuscular injection...i feel that more is absorbed in this manner....but that can all be chalked up to personal opinion

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ryry

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posted October 11, 2000 06:01 AM

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i've tried both and personally it works better for me when i inject it. i felt it kick in stronger. also the sides i got were alot harsher when i took it orally...

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted October 11, 2000 11:16 AM

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I agree with Dezl here.Winstrol is 17 Alpha-Alkylated and thus goes through the same chemical processes for absorbtion,whether it is taken orally or I.M..It will pass through(several times) and be metabolized by the liver.Unless you enjoy being a pin cushion,there's absolutely no need to inject.The stomach upset can usually be avoided by taking it in the middle of a meal.


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DICKONHARD

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posted October 11, 2000 03:31 PM

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Thanks for the info fellas. If I do opt to drink it should I stay at 100mg EOD or would it be better to go 50mg ED? Any difference? Also should I stack the Test, Deca, and Winny at the same time or do the Winny at the end for best results. I know the Test and Deca work better when taken at the same time but unsure how Winny affects receptors as this will be my first Winstrol experience. Just want to get the most bang for my buck. Thanks again.


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Green

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posted October 11, 2000 03:35 PM

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I'm doing 50mg/day. If your drinking it why not? LAter, Green


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DICKONHARD

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posted October 11, 2000 04:17 PM

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Hey Green, Are you drinking 50mg ED & are you happy with the results so far?


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giantset

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posted October 11, 2000 04:32 PM

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I will never shoot winny again. I get rock hard lumps in my ass and it hurts 10 times worse than injecting test prop.

Later,
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Green

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posted October 11, 2000 04:47 PM

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DickonHard I haven't started just yet. Cycle is starting in two weeks but I will be drinking it. I'll post results. LAter, Green


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DYLAN

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posted October 11, 2000 08:07 PM

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I'm with Giantset.
I have used winny both ways and the only difference was I got an abcess from shooting it.
D.


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Maverik

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posted October 11, 2000 08:38 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by blistex00:
I agree, just inject it. I've never tried drinking it because it was made to be injected. Unless you have pills.

Hate to be a jerk but where the hell did you read that?? Winny is a 17aa steroid and the whole reason that 17aa steroids were created was to keep the stomach and other digestive organs from destroying it. They were made to be oral. The only reason they even made it into an injectable was to make it easy to administer to animals. Notice how almost all versions of injectable winny are vetrinary? (With the exception of Zambon amps)

Drink it and take your Milk thistle and save yourself a few pains in the ass!


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Slopain

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posted October 11, 2000 08:47 PM

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I drink, the greater effectiveness (which I think many here are far over-estimating) of injecting isnt worth the scar tissue and chance of infection/abcess (I know it isn't great, but winny is waterbased). I will shoot the winny but only for localized growth, usually in the bis.

Slopain


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COnCReTE_MAsS

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posted October 11, 2000 08:50 PM

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25lbs pure lean mass from winny ?????????
and reducing some wieght also !!
it will be a first bro , are u doing a 20weeks cycle or what ?


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Headhunter

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posted October 11, 2000 08:54 PM

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This is an excerpt from an interview with Dan Duchaine that Guitarzan found on the
Testosterone Magazine web-site:

NM: I'm with you there, Dan. Tell me, do you think there is any advantage to
taking oral steroids sublingually so they bypass the liver somewhat?

DD: You want them to go through the liver! The reason orals are so effective is
they cause all kinds of growth factors in the liver, like IGF1, that an injectable
would not do. [This may be the reason there is so much anecdotal evidence that oral steroids have the ability to "burn fat."] If you look at blood tests, moderate amounts of orals don't screw up liver enzymes all that much.


Personally I drink it.


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DICKONHARD

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posted October 11, 2000 11:18 PM

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I really appreciate all the intelligent insight that I've recieved on this matter. I think i'll drink the winny to reduce the chance of getting scar tissue. I was afraid that taking it orally would be a waste but now I'm reassured otherwise due to the vast knowledge of ryry, HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex(formerly THE APE), Green, Giantset, Dylan, Maverick, Headhunter, and Slopain. I've been on the board for quite sometime now. I don't have that mant posts to my credit because i'm too busy reading your posts. Thanks again for the advice.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted October 11, 2000 11:24 PM

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You bet buddy.Look forward to your progress reports.....


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DICKONHARD

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posted October 11, 2000 11:28 PM

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COnCReTE MAsS,

If you're going to respond to my post then please at least read it. I said
that in addition to the Winny that I'd be taking 600mg of Test and 400mg of Deca per week. I think most people would agree that in conjunction with a proper diet and training that 20-25lbs would be quite attainable. Also, I never mentioned anything about reducing weight. I said that I would like to reduce bodyfat. Theres a big difference. But thanks anyway for the reply. I do not wish to get into a flaming war over this, just thought I'd reitterate what I was saying earlier.

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ridiculo

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posted October 12, 2000 05:46 AM

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You are saying it doesn't matter if you drink winny or shoot it, is than better to use tabs???


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JayisCrazy

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posted October 12, 2000 11:35 AM

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That was a TOTALLY appropriate email Dick. I was about to tell buddy to read your email again. I hate when people read 3 sentences and then start giving grief.

Cheers Bro,
And good luck with you drinks!

Jay


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samiam

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posted October 12, 2000 01:45 PM

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I need to let my calves catch up to my legs. I've never taken winny. Can taking winny orally help, or do you have to inject it in the disired area for growth...or is localized growth with winny just a myth?


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DICKONHARD

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posted October 12, 2000 08:06 PM

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Thanks jayisCrazy,

I'm usually not a smartass when I post but I was asking for intelligent useful info. Not senseless dribble. I wonder if thats how COnCReTe MAsS got his 230 posts. Trying to achieve PRO status at the expense of others definately isn't the way to go. Especially when you make an ASS out of yourself.


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Krusher

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posted October 12, 2000 09:31 PM

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Can someone please let me know where it says that winny made for i/m use is 17aa..I just don't understand why it would be. I guess the stuff is too expensive for me to chance it on drinking it, I just feel like I know it'll work fine when injected so why fix the unbroken? From what I read, winny has a shorter half-life when taken orally and should be taken twice daily.


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Maverik

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posted October 12, 2000 10:23 PM

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Krusher, this little exerpt was taken from the anabolix database:

"Winstrol is a common brand name for the drug stanazolol. Stanazolol is a 17-aa steroid, designed for oral administration but also available in injectable form. Winstrol is classified as an anabolic, exhibiting low androgenic side effects. Its' anabolic properties however are not dramatic and is often used in combination with other drugs, most commonly during cutting cycles when water and fat retention are a major concern."

Notice how it says stanazolol is a 17 aa steroid. It doesn't say that only the pills are 17 aa. It says that stanazolol is 17 aa. Just letting you know. Plus I think the fact that many people have tried drinking it and had good results should be evidence that it works. If it wasn't 17aa, it would get almost completely destroyed by the stomach. In which case all those winny drinkers wouldn't have gotten hardly any results.


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