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 HELP RE: ANTIBIOTICS a second infection -------
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Guru 
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About 1 month ago I had my first infection, took 500mg erythomician (sp) every 6 hours for approx 13 days. I just got another infection in the other ass cheek. The shot was on friday it was Sus250/deca. It is now monday and hurts. I started again with the erythromycian at the same dosing and the same timing. I am concerned that the infection is stronger now (like it wasn't fully 'cured' last time - even though its a new infection in a new cheek). Does anyone have knowledge in respectds to antibiotics and my situation. I sarted taking the antib's last night - so far I don't think it is getting better or worse. Do antibiotics come in different strengths, should I get my hands on a stronger one if thats the case? Any help is appreciated, I found the culprit to my infection (a vial that had become un-steril I think b/c of mishandling thanks to my lovely gf) and tossed it. I have had 100's of shots and this is the first time this has happened nonetheless twice within a month! Slopain PS: If it is infected is that gear in my ass not working?     | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 45 |
sorry don't know the answer here, but i'll bump it for ya bro..good luck | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 35 |
I got something for you.. | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2399 |
Thanks saigo. Anyways bump for my arse. Slopain [This message has been edited by Slopain (edited October 10, 2000).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1484 |
taking all those antibiotics is going to make your immune system worse...lay off the AB and go with 10 gms of vit c and 100,000ius of vit A..and let your body do the rest...and wipe your ass before sticking your self....your skin that is.. | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2399 |
heheh thanks animalb Im already doing that. Im afraid that the infection will grow if I stopr the anti's last time, I was real close to going to the hospital - the pain and swelling were pretty bad, now its not nearly as bad - but doesnt seem to be going down at all either (with the ab's). Slopain | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 82 |
Anibiotics do not weaken your imune system in any way. They actually stimulate it. Sometimes your body doesn't recognize an infection as a serious threat. When this happens you can take antibiotics to trick your body into thinking there is a serious infection. The antibiotic you are using is actually pretty weak and for some reason it tends to cause a number of unwanted side effects. For any kind of soft tissue infection I would go with something like Augmenton. The first thing you should always do however is hot pack the area for at least 20-30 minutes 3-5 times a day. This will get blood circulating in the area and help your body start the healig process. In regards to "antibiotics weakening your imune system" That is often confused with the possibility of the bacteria developing resistance to your imune systems method of attack. In this case you would simply need to change antibiotics and continue treatment. You dont even need to switch antibiotics yet becuse I think the hot packing will do just fine. You should start the hot packing right away whenever you notice any sign of infection. p.s. - make sure you hot pack it every day and keep doing it for a few days after you think the infection has gone away. Hope this helps. -Gord | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2399 |
ahh gordo thats what I want to hear. thank you Slopain | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 82 |
On another note: The AS will actually help your body heal this infection. For some reason your imune system will actually strengthen while on the juice but when you come off the juice it will be a little weak for awhile. This info is actally medically documented. The documentation I read was talking just about testosterone though so I have no idea what some of the other AS might do. I'm not saying you should start jackin up your AS dosage to fight this infection either. I don't think that would have much positve effect. -Gord -Gord | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 881 |
What a great post! Gord that was some solid info bro. Bump for others. Slopain good luck with the ass bro. Man I get the willies just thinking about having that happen. Later, Green | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2399 |
I am aware that AS does influence your immune system in both beneficial and detrimental ways depending on what time in your cycle/post cycle your at. One more Q: How long after infection is gone (by this I mean not noticable to me - no pain, no lump, no red) is it safe to shoot near the same area again? Slopain | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 82 |
I would start on the other glute or go for the quad. You can safely inject into the glute that had the infection but I would wait as long as you can to avoid any irritation in the area. I wish I new a way to sterilize gear without altering its properties but I don't. What are you using and what brands? If your using any fina I think its safe to say its the cause. I would never use any gear that I had doubts about but I know what its like when you don't really have an alternative. Its your health. You decide. Good luck. Gord [This message has been edited by Gord (edited October 10, 2000).] [This message has been edited by Gord (edited October 10, 2000).] | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2399 |
haha no my friend gordo I have pelnty of alternatives. I can get my hands on just about anything. Im NOT using fina here. Read my first post: quote: Its aussie deca and organon sus250. Both are very steril and great AS until your 'better half' contaminates a deca bottle. This explain the 2 infections in a month (same bottle). I always have great confidence in whatever products I put in my body, so its really not a question of that. Slopain | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 82 |
ah, I see now. I must have skimmed over that sentence. By the way, the name is "Gord" not "Gordo". You now have your solution then. -Gord | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 425 |
You might want to check out some of these links before taking the above as gospel. http://my.webmd.com/content/article/1728.58395 http://my.webmd.com/content/article/1728.61151 http://my.webmd.com/content/article/1728.59490 | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 82 |
This is old news. Its called a scare tactic. The media plays it up so they have something to talk about. This thread was started because of a legitimate infection < not a cold >. This reminds me of all the crap the media is spreading about the drug Accutane causing people to commit suicide. Give me a break! If you question what I have writen above then please take my advise and talk to your doctor about it. Don't waste your time on some meadia fed web site like webMD. -Gord | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 360 |
damn good info gordo...thanks | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2399 |
Sorry Gord, wasn't trying to belittle you - simple typo. The accutane thing is pretty funny, Im on it currently - and had to go in for my monthly bloodwork - the doc was all scared like I was going to rip him a new one for putting me on a suicide drug, heheh I guess he forgot that I asked for it, he didn't advise it initially. Slopain | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 82 |
sounds good slopain, good luck with it! I looked like a monster before the doc put me on that stuff and saved me. I only wish he would have done it a year earlier. Acne scarrs suck !!. Gord | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 425 |
Man, I love these guys who are willing to risk your ass on their theory. Give me a break. Infections like this are nothing to fuck around with. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 16 |
GO TO A DOCTOR<< Get real man,, You will regret it if you have to have an abcess opened and drained!! I did 8 mos ago on my right glute,, I had the infection for 1 week before I went to the doc., he put me on augmenten for 4 days before I was rushed to the hospital., I have two scars on my ass and I was out of the gym for over a month.. Twice a day for a month I had a home nurse take out gauze that was stuffed 4 inches into both open wounds,, it sucked so bad I ended up getting addicted to nubain over the whole situation,, anyways I am cool now but take this serious and get a docs opinion to be sure!! later, Paul | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 82 |
Man if you had an infection that bad and waited that long to get to a doc then you've got some problems. I've seen infections from injections for some time now and unless you either wait for ever after you get the infection to do anything about it or your injecting some scarry shit! you will never have the kind of problems you had. I have talked to a doctor and two RN'S about this and they say the same. In fact if you went to the ER or called the doc when you have a "normal infection" that hasn't gone out of control all they would tell you to do is hot pack it. There are plenty of free med advice phone numbers at hostpitals that I think everyone should be taking advantage of for things like this. -Gord | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 3 |
Just watch it close and if you see it getting worse SEE THE DR. I had one that I let go for 2 weeks and it took some "nasty ass" antibiotics, oral and injections to clear it up. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 389 |
Antibiotics DO NOT stimulate immunity, they simply work in concert with your immunity to fight infections. Your immune system IS needed to take care of an infection, since many drugs, such as penicillins, tetracyclines, etc. do not kill (cidal) bacteria, but place them in a state of non-viability (stasis). This is why AIDS patients get infections continuously that can't are poorly treated with antibiotics...they have no immunity to help the antibiotics fight the infection. If you have the infection in the OTHER side of your ass, from the previous infection, then you should not have a problem with resistance, since this is a new infection, not the original. Also, the strength of the medicine should suffice, if it cured the previuos infection, but you need at least the same amount (13 days) as before to treat this one. If not get to a Dr to get a script. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 37 |
Slopain - I think I just read you are on a course of accutane. I was told that it slows your immune system and esp. the healing process of your skin. I know that cuts and grazes, esp. one on my leg , took ages to heal when I was on it. Ask your doc if this is true. It is possible that because your are injecting, and the skin is not healing quick enough, the infection is caused. Just a thought. Good luck with it. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 136 |
am i the only one except the big-slopain that think that gord did a good job. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 878 |
Good posts from Gord. I read the WebMD articles and they are oversimplified. I found the article in which the author discussed doctors using antibiotics for colds and flu to be particularly amusing and spectacularly uninformed. CD is correct though, about antibiotics working with the immune system as opposed to enhancing it. |
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posted October 10, 2000 12:58 AM