not a bad topic btw

i don't believe that the use of any exogenous hormones will do anything genetically for the genotype OR phenotype of the offspring, basically because the parent's genotype <genetic code> is never changed through the usage of anabolic steroids. however, through generations of heavy anabolic steroid abuse <continuously throughout one's lifespan, and their offspring's lifespan, etc....>, there could be a slight possibility of causing drops in endogenous testosterone production by the successive offspring, due to the fact that test levels in users are suppressed

in other words, the species adapts its internal mechanisms to its environmental factors...but the differences in genetics from generation to generation are insignificant, if any

trying to stir things up a bit.

Good reply. In today's jungle a prospective mate might be more attracted to an "exceptionally conditioned" portfolio - LOL.

Later,

Your posts never fail to entertain and enthuse me...good stuff..

At this time I have nothing to say about it though....does make me think.

WCP

To understand what Darwin meant by fitness, you must realize that he means "the one who may produce the most viable offspring". So in other words you may be the best looking, smartest, strongest, i.e. best overall genetics, but if your "average" peer leaves more offspring, he is more "fit".
A quick example would be to compare a family of obese people to an olympic couple. The olympians decide only to have 1 child due to their goals to be successful in their financial and athletic endeavors. The obese couple spends all of their time having kids....with a total of 6. The olympians have, by far, the more "favorable" genetics to succeed in all aspects of their lives, and in times of struggle, could probably out-compete the obese individuals for food, shelter, money, etc. But because the obese couple had 6 children, the odds of their DNA being passing further to another generation dramatically increases. They are more "fit" in the Darwin model.

As far as the role of AS in this model, it may make you more of an "olympian", but it does nothing to benefit your future offspring. You CANNOT pass aquired traits to your offspring. So if you were a sickly, skinny kid with asthma and you cured yourself by AS, lifting, and cardio...you are now close to perfect by outside appearance. But your genetic code has not changed. You still have the same statistical chance of your children having the same problems that you had.
To pass aquired traits to subsequent generations is the erroneous "felt-needs" model. Like a giraffe who cannot reach the leaves at the highest part of a tree will gradually stretch his neck and pass that trait to his offspring....it doesn't happen that way. What happens is that a mutation arises before the egg is even fertilized, and the baby giraffe with a neck that is slightly longer is able to eat more than his peers. Scenerio: This longer necked giraffe is able to eat more, survive famines, AND mates more often. His DNA then becomes more prevalent in his society of giraffes....eventually this trait will be seen in all giraffes in subsequent generations...after thousands of years typically.