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 BEETWEEN DECA , WINNY AND PRIMO WHICH ONE WILL CAUSE LESS GYNO ??
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Cool Novice 
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I have a friend who have somw gyno problems and want to know wich of these 3 roids will develop less gyno , do you guys know ? Do you guys think that taking nolvadex or arimidex ( anti-estrogens ) with the roids will hurt the anabolic effects ( muscle growth ) of the roids ??     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 147 |
the primo and winny are about even for "least amount of gyno induced" deca causes gyno through its progestenic properties <binds receptors in the breast glands> ------------------ | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 1639 |
This is a very wide open question. 1. Rule out Deca. It converts to progesterone and there's really nothing will stop that from happening.
3.Primo would probably be the best AS if he's really worried about gyno, but it also will provide the least amount of muscle gain. ------------------ Visit my website (free of all Musclehedz pictures) at http://profiles.elitefitness.com | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1639 |
Your friend may also want to consider Equipoise as an alternative to Deca if it's available. ------------------ Visit my website (free of all Musclehedz pictures) at http://profiles.elitefitness.com | ||
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Moderator 
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Moderator
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But I'm with you take out the deca if he is worry for gyno. ------------------ | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1943 |
Tsk,Tsk fellas.....Surprised this hasn't been answered yet.NEITHER winstrol or Primobolan aromitize at ANY dosage,so there are ZERO worries about gyno with either of these compounds.Zero aromitization=zero gyno,hehheh. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 15 |
thanks to all for the info, I just ask because I had gyno and I used only winny and primo in my cycles , but I used nor-androstenedione and androstenedione some time ago ,so this SH** this may be the cause. Victor | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 64 |
they say winstrol and primo together would get a beginer like myself good results with out gyno | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 72 |
Can't see you really having problems with any of them to tell you the truth, if the deca dosage isn't real high. Just get some nolv and do a decent cycle. Or go Eq instead of deca as someone mentioned. Definitely DO NOT use prohormones. IronMike | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 39 |
Huckleberry, pardon my ignorance but why won't Primo aromatize into estrogen at a sufficient dosage? Is it not like most AS (besides deca, anadrol, etc...) that will convert into estrogen once test levels reach a particular point? Is there a physiological basis for this? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 147 |
HUCK.... you're right..they WON'T aromatize at any dosage....but there is the question of natural levels of testosterone.... if PRIMO does not cause any endogenous testosterone supression and WINSTROL does, then that suggests that there is more endogenous test in the primobolan user that aromatase can act upon....hence a greater milligram amount of estrogen occurs in the primobolan user than the winstrol user....which can be prevented through the use of arimidex, which is an an aromatase inhibitor ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 147 |
PUN... i am not 100% sure on this, but from what i understand, the actual molecular structure of primobolan molecules resists the actions of aromatase molecules....the bonding required to cause aromatization in these molecules is impossible in vivo <in the body> ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 503 |
You could also try the deca. The problems with your gyno came from the aromatisation into estrogens. It is not said that you will have problems with deca since that does not covert into estrogens. You could give it a try. To answer your question.. winstrol and primo are safest. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 375 |
"Rule out Deca. It converts to progesterone and there's really nothing will stop that from happening." Deca, nor any other androgen, CONVERTS to progesterone. They either have INTRINSIC progestagenic activity or not. There is no enzymatic pathway that will convert an androgen back to progesterone. "if PRIMO does not cause any endogenous testosterone supression and WINSTROL does..." All anabolic/androgenic steroids cause HPTA suppression, Primo may take longer, but it still occurs. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1943 |
Pharm animal:My post made no mention to regard of H-P-T-A disruption,as that was not the original posters question,he was concerned about Aromitization(in regards to gyno),which the above two A/S lack the proper carbon configuration for the enzyme aromitase to have an effect on.I'm well aware that ALL A/S will cause at least partial to full inhibition of the H-P-T-A,but that had nothing to do with his question. | ||
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Freak
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Quenepo... yes that's true, I have heard that Winny can help prevent progesterone induced gyno. I don't know much about why it works though. I personally, I would stay away from Deca if I were worried about gyno. There are just too many other choices (in my opinion) like EQ that will give the desired effects, with less of a chance of getting gyno if used with an anti-estrogen or anti-aromatase. Just my .02 ------------------ Visit my website (free of all Musclehedz pictures) at http://profiles.elitefitness.com |
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posted October 09, 2000 07:06 PM