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Bchemist

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posted October 09, 2000 02:57 AM

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All the feedback from fina users that I have ever seen has had more cons than pros. High blood pressure, THINNING HAIR, high test suppression and gains not as great as test. Finally you have to convert it yourself. I know how through my education, but it is still a royal pain in the ass. Is everyone taking it because they are desperate, or is it really worth all the trouble?

Maybe it's just me, but I'll stick to what is safe and easy.

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1911

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posted October 09, 2000 09:14 AM

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I'll second that opinion, it's not for me.

Later,


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bsjohnson

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posted October 09, 2000 09:55 AM

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I don't ever plan to use it...


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Mr H

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posted October 09, 2000 10:17 AM

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Well if hardening up is your goal- Fina is a great drug. If mass. is your goal, you're better off with something else.


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posted October 09, 2000 10:22 AM

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fina may be a pain in the ass but it makes you hard as a rock and very strong. the quality gains far outweigh test and the price is usually much cheaper. not to mention that in this day and age getting real drugs of any kind is hard so if you can make it yourself and know its real its worth it.


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Bchemist

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posted October 09, 2000 10:29 AM

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I have never taken it, so I can't disagree with your opinion at a personal experience level. But to say that fina makes for better gains than test? I can't see that...
Fina shuts down your hpta almost as hard as test does from what I understand....so post cycle losses would be similiar. Maybe you gain and lose more water on test, but pound for pound of net gain? Hmmmm.....
And I would think that a test/stanzolol cutting cycle would get you pretty hard. I am as hard as a rock right now from those two together with no water retention.


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bigmann245

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posted October 09, 2000 10:39 AM

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Fina is a diet drug. mainly for shedding pounds of unwanted fat. i have lost 35 lbs so far on fina in 3 months. i have gained a fair amount of muscle. my intention was to lose fat but the muscle gains were a bonus. i have no idea what your talking about as far as the side effects. so far the only side effect i had was a tiny bit of acne but i had oily skin to begin with. this is not a bash or anything just letting you know from an experienced user that unless you try it, dont knock it.


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strengthmonster

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posted October 09, 2000 10:49 AM

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I've never tried fina although I'm not saying that I wouldn't. I don't have any problem getting test or pretty much anything for that matter so I've pretty much stuck to test as the backbone to my courses (usually testoviron depot or sus). It works for me and I know it's sterile. Fina puts me off a bit having to prepare it all, I'd be worried about sterility. Then there's the fact that people use 15-18g pins due to the particles, Nah I'll stick to my 21-23g. I may give it a try one day but I think I'd need a lot of convincing.


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gearseeker

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posted October 09, 2000 10:56 AM

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Fina kicks ass! I believe its second only to test as being the strongest injectable drug. It stacks well for cutting or with test for bulking. Its right up there with A50 as far as sides and its hard on the kidneys. A harsh drug but very effective if you can tolerate it. I prefer fina for bulking up - stacked with WV, A50 and test.


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smallboy2

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posted October 09, 2000 11:13 AM

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Bigmann how much fina have you been using during your fina cycle?


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Bchemist

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posted October 09, 2000 11:21 AM

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This is what I like to see....a mixture of opinions and experiences. One of the reasons I am asking this question is that I see lots of newbies asking questions that shows that they found this site 5 hours ago and have never tried gear in any form. Less than two weeks later, these same guys are asking synthesis questions with respect to the pellets that they just got in the mail. I'm actually not knocking fina, but rather trying to assess the risk to rewards ratio. The cycles I do now have almost no risk and all reward. And these same cycles are similiar to what has been used for decades. Now we have all these people trying fina like it is some big fad. Obviously my cycles could cause severe sides in others, just like fina causes few sides in some while extreme sides in others. But what I am hearing is that those who experience no sides on traditional cycles have all kinds of problems on fina. That convinces me that I personally won't touch it. But if it works for you, more power to you.


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ryker77

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posted October 09, 2000 11:59 AM

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Strengthmonster you said that people use 15-18 gauge pins. Hollyshit if I had to stick something that big in my ass I'd find something else.
I used 23gauge pin to inject 1cc of fina and 1cc of test-50 mixture with no problem. I do use warm water to ease the oil up a bit.

As far as fina its cheap and easy to get. But that might be part of the problem. It's too easy and too cheap.

But I do get a laugh reading post asking " can i just stick the pellet in my ass" or " can i snort fina" LOL its cracks me up



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posted October 09, 2000 12:20 PM

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hum


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Omega44

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posted October 09, 2000 12:22 PM

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Bchemist

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posted October 09, 2000 02:10 PM

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Bump because I want to know why a newbie would choose this.


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rainhorn

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posted October 09, 2000 02:52 PM

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you said it Bchemist .


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Sittin' On Diesel

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posted October 09, 2000 03:19 PM

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The side effects on fina are blown way out of proportion. The bad thing I've gotten from Fina is some very mild acne on my back and shoulders.

It's not something that you'll put a lot of mass on, but it will harden you up a bit and make you strong as hell. I like it because it kicks in so fast, and the strength gains are sweet. Converting it is a piece of cake, I don't know why people sweat this- if you can cook a frozen pizza than you can convert this.

Anyways just my thoughts- oh and it's cheap.


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posted October 09, 2000 03:24 PM

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#1 reason for newbie choice = availability.

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posted October 09, 2000 04:25 PM

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Of course, its the availability and semi legality that attracts folks to fina, especially newbies who haven't got the connections to obtain other things. And they get good results as you will on most anything your 1st cycle. Other brothers who are not new to gear like the fact that it is not regulated like other steroids, so they don't run the risk of getting busted. No fakes either. I made some up for fun and stacked it with omna and dbol - kept down the bloating and I didn't notice any sides. I think the toxicity is overstated, as a reseach article that was recently posted here indicated. Fina is so widely discussed now that the gov. will surely step in and screw up the availability soon.


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Pharm Animal

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posted October 09, 2000 04:25 PM

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DocJ...BINGO

i like it because of its availability too...nothing wrong with that...

however...i have had thinning hair from finaplix usage....and that really sucks

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Androl

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I asked this question in another thread but i think this one is a better place so i'll ask it here too.

How much could it cost for a cycle of Fina ? How's the kit, is it easy to make ? I tought about it several times but i'm afraid of the sterilization. How is it ? No danger for infections or else ??

What about the gains from a fina cycle ? How much cc per weeks is recommended ?

let me know, i'm interested.
Andy


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ironmaster

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posted October 09, 2000 05:12 PM

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1 cartridge costs about 40 bucks, one single kit, 40 bucks - yields about 22-25 cc's for $80. One cc EOD will give nice results in strength, hardness, vascularity and fat reduction. Results depend on your situation and what else you use. 50 day cycle for $80 ain't bad.


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posted October 09, 2000 05:32 PM

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I am a newbie that has used only TH and dmso for 2 short cycles.You guys are right.I chose tren cause I didn't have to inject some black market stuff.Thats a scary plan that you guys have got over,but a huge barrier for those,like myself,who have tried having a tooth filled without anestetic to avoid the novacain needle.
Then the whole game of buying black market gear,and wondering if it's fake,sounds like lot's of fun to.
I am impressed ancedotaly that test is more mood enhancing then tren.Gains on tren only were good,but I felt about the same as normal.


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Bchemist

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posted October 09, 2000 07:30 PM

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That's not really cheaper than T-200 and powder. If you guys need to pay more than $80 for 50 days of any compound other than ox, deca, and primo, you are getting hosed.

And I see your points of view....but my hairline is FAR too valuable to me. Hairloss does not run in my family, but andro made it clear to me that my hairline is not immortal.


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posted October 09, 2000 07:31 PM

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What's fina? LOL


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Zeacky

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posted October 09, 2000 07:46 PM

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Well Bchemist, I'd have to whole heartedly agree with you. TBA did a number on my hair. If you you search for it I wrote it out in full my entire cycle and results. If TBA didn't cause so much hairloss and thinning I would have finished my eight week cycle. Other than the hair loss, I loved the shit!

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superdave

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posted October 09, 2000 09:58 PM

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Bump, Ive got some coming in the mail.

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posted October 09, 2000 10:01 PM

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ME EITHER..

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posted October 09, 2000 10:41 PM

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B-Chemist....Lets get serious here! In the day and age of scammers, fake gear, shitty gear and the legalities of possession, How can Fina not be awesome!

1) Helps in Fat Loss.
2) Cheap and Easy to prepare and YOU CONTROL HOW STERILE ITS MADE!!!! --not some drunk mexican in a vet chemical sweat shop.
3) Good Strength Gains without the damn bloat of other androgenic gear!
4) Muscle Gained is quality not water!
5) Legal to produce and possess! (for your animal)
6) Less sides than most experience on test.
7) Adds hardness to a physique for competition.

Where are the cons? I know it has sides but when I get searched by a cop and I hold a bottle of fina in one hand and a bottle of test in the other....which one is worth it?!?


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Bchemist

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posted October 09, 2000 11:45 PM

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If you produce TBA into a solution, I believe that it would be considered schedule III automatically. You would have a hard time convincing a fed that your cow preferred needles to an implant gun. Parabolan is schedule III after all.

Another point to mention...you probably don't hear about abcesses because people are too embarassed to admit to it. I know that I would be.....I've seen one drained before...convinced me that nothing potentially unsterile is going into my body even if I made it and I know what I am doing.


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posted October 10, 2000 12:34 AM

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"If you guys need to pay more than $80 for 50 days of any compound other than ox, deca, and primo, you are getting hosed."

Maybe if you live in San Diego...

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posted October 10, 2000 03:57 AM

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Thats fuckin-a right, docj. And 80 bucks for a product that works and is LEGALLY obtained is damn good. I can get what ever I want for a good price, and apparently so can bchemist, but for those that can't, fina is a good choice. No need to put it down.


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Fina is the only thing that I have ever used, and have only used it once. My bench press went up about 20-30lbs in 5 weeks and I gained a few pounds too. Got leaner, etc... My girlfriend really noticed how much harder my chest and the rest of my body was all of the time. I got a pump everytime I ate a large meal it seemed like. Good drug, not illegal to purchase, good for a little size and lots of strength...just drink lots of water and cranberry juice.

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Bchemist

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posted October 10, 2000 07:51 AM

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This has been an interesting thread. Perhaps, for many, we are dispelling some of the myths of fina. For me, I'm learning that maybe those I know who have used with problems are just a negative statistical anomoly.

If there are more people with bad feed back, I'd like to hear it. I know you are out there. But if not, the pros (not cons) have it....


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strengthmonster

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posted October 10, 2000 08:02 AM

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Now I've heard that it can be used through a 23g I may give it a try sometime. A few people have mentioned hair loss. Does fina more easily convert to DHT than test? or are the hair loss sides about the same?


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