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  Sore nipples.........am i getting gyno damnit?

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Hardcore4Evr

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posted October 08, 2000 03:08 PM

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Well, this is crazy, but the tip of my nipples are getting sore to the touch. Without touching them, i cant feel a thing. And its just the tip of them too. Plus, they look like they are sticking out a little more than usual. I am currently on a cycle of 30mg/d of Dbol, 1000mg Test, & 700mg Ultragan. This is only the end of my first week too! I just started this all last Sunday! Does this make any sense at all? I am taking clomid EOD too. I do have some Nolvadex on hand, but if i could take the Clomid every day and see if it helps, i would rather do that then go with the Nolva. I wanna keep my gains, and not lose them, but losing is better than gaining bitch tits ya know. What do you guys think? Is this the starting point for gyno?

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted October 08, 2000 03:17 PM

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Yes it is.Clomid,although it has similar estrogen blocking capabilities to nolvadex,does not bind nearly aggessively to the receptor in breast tissue as nolvadex.For this reason,Nolvadex should be considered THE choice when the onset of gyno begins.The gains it will inhibit are mostly in the form of estrgen related edema,not lean body mass.Start with 40mg/daily,until aggrevated symptoms subside,then swicth over to 20mgs/daily util the duration of your cycle ends and you begin clomid therapy to restore test levels.

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Hardcore4Evr

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posted October 08, 2000 03:25 PM

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Hey thanks a lot Huck. So you dont think that using the Clomid will help me anymore? I could up the dosage to every day i guess, but yeah, post cycle i wanna be able to make it work. And like you said, its possible that my body could be used to it if i have already been using it for 12 weeks during my cycle. So Nolva comes in what pill dosage? I cant remember what mine are. 20mg tabs? I guess i could just start using that then. I just dont wanna lose a lot of size because if it! It scares me to even take it because of all the time and money i have put into my cycle! Im looking to gain 30 pounds off this, and i dont want it to end up being 20
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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted October 08, 2000 03:32 PM

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If anything the Nolvadex will help you RETAIN more of your gains post cycle,as less water will be gained during the cycle,therefore less will be excreted post cycle,so you won't experience quite a dramatic loss in scale weight,post-cycle.The tablets most commonly come in 10 and 20mg strength,respectively.It should either be marked on the tablet itself,or on the foil packaging,what the strength is.


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Hardcore4Evr

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posted October 08, 2000 03:37 PM

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Ok great, sounds good, Huck. I will go check the packaging in a bit. I just got them in yesterday and i havent been able to go through everything. Man, the more and more i sit here, the more sore they feel. I think im going crazy, but then again, i just need to deal with the fact that im getting it, and i need to do something about it. I didnt think it only took a week for it to occur? But using so many androgens in my first week would have had a large effect right? And, can i catch it before it gets worse? I have NO puffiness at all.

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted October 08, 2000 03:47 PM

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What you're most likely experiencing at this point is the ESTRADIOL aromitizing properties of the Dianabol,as the injectibles probably haven't had much of an effect on the enzyme aromitase yet.The nolvadex will certainly combat this affliction.


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Hardcore4Evr

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posted October 09, 2000 02:03 PM

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Well, Nolvadex is being taken as of today. How long does it take to be effective....or when will this pain in my nips go away? Thanks for all your help, Huck. I guess gaining 25 pounds of muscle instead of 35 pounds is fine since that extra 10 will more than likely be water anyways. Ill just be harder during my cycle. Oh well.....

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