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Victor

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From:Rio de Janeiro , Brazil
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posted October 08, 2000 12:49 AM

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Hi again , well this will be a BIG topic but please take the time to read. remember that I am from BRazil and my english is very good , but not 100 % perfect so, any mistakes ....well , I started taking roids at 16 ( I am 20 ) . I was a fat( I am endomorphic type , so I store FAT TOO EASY ) little boy , and I just took some winny ( about 30 ) , and did not make any diet , and I was exercising the wrong way. So, no side effects and no big changes at all. About 17 I took it again ( winny ) and did the same stupid thing , no diet and wrong training method, So Again , no side effects and no big changes at all.By this time I was a little bigger , but still fat. It was in my 18 and the big thing happened. I heard about GH ( I took saizen 2 ui every other day ) , so I took in 34 primo and 12 gh . this time working out REAL hard and smarter and doing an excellent diet. REsults : I was from 231 lbs ( 24 % BF) to 209 ( 9 % BF )in 3 months .I am 6.1 feet or 1,84 m . Side effects : Skin was oily , acne ( face , back ) decreased libido. But the results were outstanding , nobody could believe ,not even me . The side effects disappeared after 2 months . So , I hurt my lower back , I traveled for 2 months and I couldn`t exercise at all , and all this pissed me off , I when I am pissed I just eat like a crazy - PIZZA , CHOCOLATE , CHESBURGER , MCDONALDS ..ETC ........results : I gained all the fat again ( luckly i did not lose my muscle mass ) ...so , I said : I will do it again , but this time it was winny , equi and GH . I just couldn`t believe , the GH wasn`t producing not even 1/3 the effect that produced the firs time- I STILL DON`T KNOW WHY ?? ( It just CUT me up in the first time ) ...So , I was losing very little fat and gaining some muscle , the primo wasn`t giving me the same pumps, mass ,strength at all . So, I decided to stop the cicle in the half . So , I stayed off the roids from there to now , but last year , revolted with my physique I decided to DO IT without roid , and believe it or not I DID IT . In 4 motnhs I was from 233 lbs ( 24 % ) to 200 lbs ( 10 % BF )- ALL I took was : Myoplex , xenadrine and betagen , I worked hard of course , although I did not ended like I was after my third cycle I ended good , close to that.sO , I thinked , this time I will keep this way , since I did it naturally I will be able to keep it easily. I was wrong , I had to stop working out due to my new work ( wich I quitted ) , and I just started to eating . So ,I ballon again to 233 lbs and 20 % BF . I am now at this point. I have insomnia so for me sometimes can be hard to maitain a healthy life style and sleep weel can get dificult , so it can get hard to keep my diet and workouts . So I will take roids again because I did it naturally and I ballon up again so what everybody says that it was the roids fault , it wasn`t ., now I am planning to do MY LAST cycle , attain my objective - that is 209 lbs and 6% BF . And I plan to keep it that way , ( well close to this at least ) I have a lot of fat in my waist , basically this is the place that I store most . I have now 20 winny , and I am plannig to use some clen , and some DECA or primo with the winny , but I don`t know if I take the GH or not. As now I am trying to reach 15 % to start my cycle , it it tougher than the last time I did it naturally , I don`t know why, somepeople says that it is because each time I ballon up , get lean , ballon up , get lean ...all this shit just wrack my body and It will be harder each time , they say that the body caN`T `handle it ...I think they are right ....my nutricionist said that I should not take the roids , but I tell that I will do whatever I can to get back to my shape , even take the roids fot the last time.......thanks for taking the time to read , and I tried to put it all here , but any questions , just ask , I may have forgot some details , but , just ask . If anyone has any idea that may help me , please , I want to hear. thanks .

Victor


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Upjohn

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posted October 08, 2000 02:08 AM

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The people who said the body can't handle it are wrong. I can explain it better. I am from the 80's. I graduated '81 and I have used steroids since my senior year in high school, at about 17-18. I do it just like any other professional bodybuilder out there. Baloon up, diet, baloon up, diet. It just works. In the off-season, I can eat junk or whatever. I know I will gain fat, but when it comes to summer time, or dieting season, whichever I chose, I diet it all off. You see, every cycle is different for you. You can't take the same dosages as before. It just won't work after 3-4 cycles. You need to increase the dosages massively. This route is the same route all the IFBB pro's are doing too, and it all ends up in dosages so high, it is steroid abuse. But the thing is, you can take a lot of steroids, and at high dosages, too. It isn't like cocaine. Trust me, if you want big gains you need big steroids. That includes some of the cycles I have been on for years. I said it earlier once, that my next cycle is only my 6th, but in 20 years, I have been on longer than anyone here. Later man, and take it easy guy. You can do it, it just loses its effectiveness after you pack it on that much. Hell, some pros are lucky if they pack on 5 pounds of muscle in a 20 week cycle ! After you reach a point, it just stops, and you will find out you need steroids just to maintain your size and strength ! Ok, later.


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Victor

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posted October 08, 2000 11:25 AM

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hey bro , thanks for taking the time to help me . You are right , I forget about the pros who baloon up in the offseason and get ripped in the pre-contest season. I forgot to mention also that after stop taking roids , I tried some androstenedione and nor-androstenedione , so I get GYNO. I don`t know if it was because of the roids ( like a delayed side effect , because I wasn`t taking roids for about a year ) or it was because or the andro and the nor-andro. So ,I took arimidex , and basically all the gyno disapeared , I only have a very litle now on my left pec . ANd I forgot to tell also that I took some HCG at the end of my cycles wich some people say it is not good.SO, I will do one more cycle to try to get to my shape. But I need to decide , ( and I want to hear your opinion also ) about what to stack with winny , because I already have 20 winny here , I don`t know if I stack with DECA , MASTERON , PRIMO OR PARABOLAN . Deca and primo I can get real easy here in brazil but primo , masteron and para is basically impossible.And I don`t know if it is good to stack some GH also , what do you think ? I am planning on taking a 10 weeks steroid cycle ( 8 weeks -than 2 weeks to taper it off ). And I will put clenbuterol also . By the way , what do you think about parabolan , it still exist ? I mean the real stuff ? Because I heard that the lab french that produced it , just stopped. ..and , do you have any advice on how to lose fat around the waist ? because when I diet , this is the last fat to come out , and then it is the first to come back on. A real s***.
So , thanks in advance .

Victor


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Upjohn

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posted October 08, 2000 03:34 PM

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I emailed you, check your email.


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bstrong

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posted October 08, 2000 04:15 PM

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i can relate, i'm about to start my 5th cycle ,and basicly have the same problems high BF %, and getting bloated after cycle.

i've emailed u.


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Krusher

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posted October 08, 2000 05:13 PM

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I feel exactly the same..always battling the bulge yet wanting more mass as well..I've just started what I call "my Ultimate bulk/cut cycle", looking for serious fat loss and hoping for 10lbs along the way. How cheap is gh over there? I still can't afford that stuff. Email me if you want that cycle I'm doing..I put alot of research into it.


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Victor

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posted October 08, 2000 05:55 PM

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Krusher ,I sent a email to you. check it out.

Victor


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