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 The reasons to stack Winstrol & Deca together....
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Freak 
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Here are the specific reasons that Winstrol/deca compliment each other perfectly.The following insight is offered by world renowned guru Bill Roberts:Winstrol and deca are a very logical combination because Nandrolone(Deca)is quite effective at the androgen receptor(A/R)while Stanozolol(Winstrol)is effective in non-A/R mediated mechanisms.Furthermore,Stanozolol binds strongly to the progesterone receptor,but is NOT progestogenic,whereas deca behaves like progesterone on the progesterone receptor(activating it).Thus,Winstrol may very well BLOCK the progestogenic effect that can lead to bloating,gyno,and IMPOTENCE(Yes,DECA-DICK fellas.)For any of you guys thinking of doing a deca only cycle,here are your reasons for throwing in the winny.As a side note,Winstrol should also be a part of any Anadrol including cycle,as it shares alot of similarities with deca(exhibiting high progestogenic activity.)Hope you guys are taking notes,hehheh. [This message has been edited by HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex (edited October 08, 2000).]    | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1484 |
thanks..that helped me understand some things..anadrol, winny,gana..next cycle  | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 29 |
thanks for the info, just what I was looking for! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 250 |
same with winny/a-50 | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 121 |
These are the posts I love to read. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 725 |
So stanolone is a competitive inhibitor and nandrolone is an allosteric activator. Makes since to me. Good post bro. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 168 |
thanks again huck finn....great info! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 507 |
so what you are really saying here is this spring you want me to do winny,prop,and deca to prove you right...fine you twisted my arm ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
exactly how would you recommend to stack the two? how many cc's, how many times a week. im considering using deca to bulk, and had thought about using some sustanon along with the winstrol. i want about 10 to 20 pounds of quailty muscle. since you know what you are talking about i suppose you are the one to ask. so please hook me up with how many cc's and how many time a week to maximize my gains without wasting my time | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1948 |
Deca-400mgs/week.Winstrol-50mgs/daily.Perfect combo.Throw 500mgs/week of sustanon and you will easily gain that 20lbs you are looking for over an 8-10 week period at these dosages. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 205 |
huckleberry fina, well Im up at 3 cause I cant sleep. Remember i got that New York proposal show and I have to leave this morning. Gotta squeeze in my fina shots and sos before I leave. wish me luck!!! | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1948 |
Oh hell yeah bro,I smell a Hollywood career coming out of this,hehheh.Best of luck to you and the misses buddy!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 205 |
thanks bro!!!! You better believe that I been searching all weekend for some new shirts that make me look like a hoss!! | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1948 |
Dude,I remember that pic you posted...I don't think that's gonna be too much of a problem,hehheh. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 205 |
thanks for the boost, but you know how we are. We can never be big enough! | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1948 |
EXACTLY.That's why we're on THIS forum-LOL!!! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 543 |
My memory was getting rusty on that very topic....I was designing my next spring cycle, and now I remember where I want to put stanozolol and deca in the cycle...pretty much together. [This message has been edited by Bchemist (edited October 08, 2000).] | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 4 |
Thanks for the info. I'm glad I found this place! Do you think with those doses, my hair would be safe? Clay [This message has been edited by Clay (edited October 08, 2000).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1098 |
Hey Bill Roberts, you monkey. What the hell are non-AR mediated mechanisms? ------------------  | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 855 |
Well for the newbies keep in mind if doing winny and anadrol. It's a good stack but they are both 17aa so be kind to your liver. It would be nice if Bill Roberts would post here... I wonder if Dan Duchaine ever posted here? ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1016 |
Good post Huck, ....as always ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 50 |
would stacking the deca with the winny lower DHT levels?,I would like to keep my hair from thinning.I did a winny and primo cycle and began to see my hair line receeding. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 135 |
hey huck,,would it be the same thing for eq and winny?? Bam Bam | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1948 |
Yes and no.Although eq shares similarities to deca in that it has a strong binding affinity to the androgenic receptor,(therefore using eq and deca together is rather pointless)it(eq) does not exhibit progestogenic activity.So winstrol would not block eq's aromatizing capibilities,as they are through estrogenic pathways.However,winstrol and eq together creates a nice combination because they exhibit their positive effects in completely different manners,as winstrol achieves its effectiveness out side of the A/R(somewhat)so you are covering different areas to achieve growth without one impeding on the others mode of action. | ||
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Novice
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Hey Huck, on that 400 mg deca and 50mg winny cycle you suggest to a post,would the winny dosage be the same for pills and inj. or could you go 50 mg eod with inj. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 315 |
huck how about a decca/eq/winny cycle?? ------------------ | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1948 |
H-Just remember the injectible is water based,so it is eliminated from the system rather quickly(not sure of the exact clearence time).You could experiment with it and see how it works for you.Me personally,I see no reason to inject this stuff,as it passes through the liver(being 17AA)several different times anyway.Swole-The only problem I see with that stack is that the deca and eq work by the same mechanisms(aggressive binding to the A/R)so they will in a sense be competing with one another.Not necessarily a terrible thing,but why not just use one or the other? [This message has been edited by HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex (edited October 08, 2000).] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 315 |
true true so decca would be better to use with winny that eq?? ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 236 |
Hey Huck, can you shoot me your addy so I can ask you something? ------------------ | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1948 |
I believe its a close call,but deca might be slightly more aggressive in its binding to the androgenic receptor,therefore results may be slightly more pronounced. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 315 |
thanks bro.. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 236 |
ohhh Miiiiisterrrr Fiiiiinnnnapleeeeeeex,where aaaare yoooouuu? email me your addy please. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 130 |
very informative. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 45 |
Thanks a lot Huck, great info bro! | ||
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Novice
Posts: 4 |
Whow, I got buried in a the post somewhere but nobody responded on the hair thing. has anybody really noticed much hairloss on the 50mg EOD? ~Clay | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 332 |
Dbol is also a type 2 steriod in that it also has non-receptor mediated anabolic effects. Thus, the dramatic effects of the popular test dbol stack. Pretty much the only type 2's out there are winny and Dbol all others are type one and bind strongly to the angrogen receptor. There is one more but I can't think of it right now. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1948 |
Clay-Pretty much all A/S will effect the hairline in those that carry the gene for male-pattern baldness,with Deca being the exception to the rule,and perhaps testosterone exhibiting a slightly more aggressive nature in this regard.Topical DHT blockers applied to the scalp would be of use. | ||
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Novice
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Huck, if you were doing the tabs would you still want to do 50mg eod? Or would you do 25mg tabs a day? | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 1167 |
Good post Huck,but like always that depend of the person,I use deca without problems,don't give me deca dick and no bitch tits(thanks god),the only I notice is a little hair loss and acne. ------------------ | ||
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Novice
Posts: 6 |
Good info huck, especially for us newbies. of all the research i've done, this place is the most informative. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 101 |
WHAT's a deca dick?, man? I don't know! | ||
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Novice
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Quenepo- just curious, the deca made your hair start to thin?!?!? You were taking it alone I take it. How much were you taking? Mine receded like a bastard when doing test but never really got "thinner". I have never tried Deca with or without anything else. I'd hate to see hair buidup in the shower drain. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 632 |
Huck, I can one thing. Certain drugs by themselves or with others can have odd effects one one's sex drive. Everyone talks about "Deca dick". I guess I had "EQ" cock. I had ZERO sexual stamina and I was walking around feeling like I was going to bust a nut if the wind blew too hard. One or two thrusts and I'd come when I was with a chick-she wasnt too thrilled to put it mildly. Then on test and deca the penis felt normal and he would come when I told him to. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
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Thanks for the info Huck, at the risk of soundin like a idiot, i didnt know they had an oral winny, all ive know is the injectable. if so which is safer, and or better to use. wont the liver cut down the strength of the dose? i am really interested in the Winny/Deca/sustanon cycle. could you write out how much to take. For Instance Monday- Tuesday_ Wednesday- Thursday- Friday- Saturday- Sunday- *remember im a newbie here researching the right way to do this. my frist cycle only got me about 10 pounds. Laurabolin/T200. let me know how many cc's to take on which days. it would make it alot easier. also which brands are best to get, without having to worry about getting some fake shit. any and all info will help and is greatly appreciated | ||
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Novice
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It was stated that on the winny/deca/ sus cycle you could gain 20lbs of muscle. Would this require 5000 cal diet or could you do it with less. | ||
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Cool Novice
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help huck, wanna start this cycle.i got this buddy of mine gettung me some juice, and i need to know how many cc's a day of each. go up two replies and it will explain what i need | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
also do i need any clomid or nolvadex. if so write tat out for me to. THANX | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 205 |
Hey HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex please zap me an e-mail need to ask you an important question. Thanks man i apprecaiate it, talk to you later G-Man | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 84 |
Good info, H.F!! ------------------ | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1948 |
Gettinbig:Here's a fairly common formula(Cycle length=8weeks)--Deca at 400mgs/weekly,sustanon at 500mgs/weekly,winstrol at 50mg/daily.You will need clomid for post cycle recovery of testosterone levels,and it would be a wise idea to have nolvadex on hand,as sustanon is quite capable of aromitization.As for brands,organon and jelfa are the most commonly used brands of sust/omna,organon & Norma hella make nice versions of deca,Jurox,Denkall make nice version of Winstrol. | ||
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Cool Novice
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if i do need to use the nolva, how much do i take and how often. are the only signs tits, or are there any other signs that i could miss. also is injectable winstrol better than drinking it. also how many cc's of each will equal the mgs needed, thanks again | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 205 |
H.F can you give me an e-mail? I have to ask you about someone. Thanks man!! G-Man | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1016 |
He kneepads, that was a nice experience to share with us. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short |
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posted October 08, 2000 12:39 AM