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 last min. cycle critique,,mods and experienced only(E2,TS,Bchemist,Huck,Biz)
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 125 |
Alright guys,,Im ready to start,,I was going to wait another week but I can't wait..I want to point this out..Im coming off a shoulder injury and havn't been in the gym in about 6 mths. also that was when I came off my last cycle..I've dropped a good bit of weight..My shoulder feels good though so hopefully it will hold up..Im planning on using omna,d-bol(never used before), and eq..But I also have anavar, winstrol,7 shots of t-200 and 7 shots of cyp-200. I want to put on weight and mass big time..My last bench max was 375,,I want to at least get 390 out this time..Heres what my cycle looks like thus far......Hey,,thanks in advance guys.. ..omna.....d-bol....eq....clomid? 1.750......6 day....0......0 2.750......6 day....0......0 3.750......7 day....200....0 4.750......7 day....300....1 eod 5.750......8 day....400....0 6.750......9 day....400....0 7.500......0........400....0 8.500......0........400....1 eod 9.0........0........400....0 10.0.......0........300....0 11.........................2 ed 12.........................1 ed Thats it guys ,,what do you think?? I know I should probably run the omna at 750 al the way through but I don't have that many..Does the clomid look good??Don't forget I also have winny,anavar,t200,cyp200 on hand. I also have nolvadex on hand..Thanks again..Bam Bam.....Im going to bump till I get some good pro opinions..     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1326 |
Oops my name isn't up there i guess i can't answer. ------------------  | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 623 |
BamBam, I see the postion your in with the Omna-leave it like it is or make it a week or two shorter at the 750mg dose IMO. Second-dont pyramid or taper the dbols. And i wouldnt pyrmaid the eq either. Its your "base" drug. Good choices for your meds. You yourself will know when its "Nolva Time". If you are sensitive you ought to look into Arimidex. Apparently its not too expensive in inj. form and the pills only need to be used EOD or E 3rd day in 1/3-1/4 tab. On a training note if you have access to one of those exercise balls you may want to start using that for chest and shoulders for awhile to develop stabilizer strength,ect. If you have any questions about that please email me- I have bad shoulders and am now doing 150lb DB chest presses on a swiss ball for 6 reps and 140's for sets of 8. Using 80's for sets of 8-10 for shoulder presses-thats unsupported and no belt. I'd be glad to help. ------------------ | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 1886 |
I agree with YMKP,no need to pyramid dosages,if anything start high and maybe do a light taper towards the end.The sust will take care of its own tapering,so keep it solid at 3/4gram/weekly.At about week 6 or so,I would begin implementing your winny/oxandrolone(50mg/daily winny,25 mg/daily oxandrolone.)Run them until the twelve-week mark,and bump your post cycle clomid schedule to this period as well.You will retain nearly ALL of your gains on this cyle buddy.Good one! [This message has been edited by HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex (edited October 07, 2000).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 125 |
Thanks guys,,hey Deca,,I meant experienced and just put some names out there so the newbies would take a hint,,I know you know your shit dude,,please feel free to reply..Hey Huck,,is it cool to use the 2 orals in the same stack even though the anavar isnt very potent a on the body..I was thinking of saving it for a cut cycle but I might go ahead and use it. the taper up on the d-bol I got from chemist.. He tapered up on his last d-bol and sid it worked well..Thanks guys,,any more suggestions from pros?? | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1886 |
Yes,oxandrolone is the exception to the rule,as it exhibits next to NO liver toxicity,so it would be fine to stack it along side winstrol. | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 2666 |
The Oma's look good, and I'd leave as is...I would start the dbol high from week one, and taper down from there...this will give the Enanth. time to get in your system and it will be a smoother transition. I would also start the EQ high and taper it down as well...clomid at 50mg's EOD throughout entire cycle....and post cycle use of clomid looks good. I think this is perhaps one of the better first or second cycles there is, and it will give great gains...providing the proper diet and training is at it's peak....Anavar, Khule...chunk it in there along with the winny....Way Khule Bro!!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 125 |
actually this will be my ninth cycle..should I just save the t200 and cyp for another time??Ive' never had access to d-bol and anavar..im pretty psyched up about this one..Ive used sust a few times, but never omna.(same shit)What will throwing the anavar and winstrol in at week 6 do,,and if I do that,,should I still stick with the eq throughout the entire cycle?? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 505 |
I can see that you are using some of my logic on that cycle....but I would keep the eq dose steady. I like what you are doing with the clomid, but I would add an additional week of 100 mg. If you want to implement the winstrol, use it during weeks 7-11 at 50mg ED. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1886 |
With the addition of these other 2 compounds,the eq would not be necessary.Throwing in the above two drugs in this time frame will harden you up,promote vascularity(winny)and you will be tapering the end of your cycle with two drugs that exhibit ZERO aromitization,therefore you will not experience the typical estrogenic edema-related water excretion,post cycle.In simple terms,your bodyweight will stay consistant,not take a rapid nose-dive,when using these two compounds last in the sequence of your array. [This message has been edited by HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex (edited October 07, 2000).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 100 |
decaman... KNOW YOUR ROLE!!! i guess i wasn't on the title either...LOL ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 125 |
Will proscar and saw palmetto have any effects on my gains?? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 125 |
I forgot to add that I already have nizoral shampoo..its 2% I think,,the one only a doc can prescribe..I have thick hair,,but the last 2 cycles it has thinned just a bit..I want to keep the hair that I have..Is nizoral enough?? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 134 |
BAM BAM, have you built up your strength on your shoulder yet because i'm out right now with a dislocated shoulder. I'm getting better, but i thought i'd be a better idea to get most of your strength back before juicing. You said you havent been in the gym for about 6 months, right??? When i'm able to go to the gym, i'm going to do 1-2 months and then start the gear. How's your strength??? What kind of injury exactly did you have??? I've only been out for 1 month and probably have 1 more month to go.... get well..... aky | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 134 |
oh ya..... your cycle looks good... i was in the middle of a similar cycle when i got my injury..... here it is..... WK OMNA EQ D-BOL WK1 750 --- 6 A DAY WK2 750 --- 6 A DAY WK3 750 --- 6 A DAY WK4 750 --- 6 A DAY WK5 750 400 6 A DAY WK6 750 400 WK7 750 400 -------- WK8 750 400 -------- WK9 --- 400 -------- WK10 ---400 -------- WK11 ---300 -------- WK12 ---300 -------- CLOMID 1TAB EOD DURING CYCLE CLOMID 2TABS ED FIRST TWO WEEKS POST CYCLE CLOMID 1TAB ED THIRD WEEK POST CYCLE this was my first cycle... i had to stop at weeks 5-6. But i'm going to do the same one once i get better.... let me know about your shoulder! aky! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 125 |
The doc was unsure what it was. He was wanting to do a mri and other tests,,It was fixing to get expensive..I was benching very heavy when I hurt it..Like a dumbass I finished the workout and even tried to workout a week after it happened...I still really don't know exactly what is wrong with it,,It hurts some mornings after I sleep on it..I hurt my right shoulder a few years ago and I went to a specialist. He told me I had a cyst that was very common in body builders,,he gave me a cortizone shot in the trap area. It helped but never really healed until i started juicing again about 2 mths after the shot..The first injury gradually come on but the last one was sudden so I don't think it is a cyst..I know I probably need to workout at least a month but I have fizzeled down to nothing. I weigh 165 where I normally weigh about 180 at 7% year round.Im a short ass 5'8" by the way..I normally get remarks on how big my arms are so when they start becoming scarce,,I know I am getting little..Man I hate that,,I am usually in prime time shape year round..Thanks for all of your help guys,,any more is appreciated..Bam Bam | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1094 |
Bad BAMBAM, no pyramiding! If finances permit keep the doses "Static". Otherwise drop the doses.
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 623 |
BamBam, Be careful if you use Proscar with any nandralone or its derivatives. It can accelerate hair loss. Thats the only type of interaction like that that I know of. ------------------ |
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posted October 07, 2000 01:30 PM