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pump_n_puke

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posted October 06, 2000 02:42 PM

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I have been working out for about 6 years and have just recently started with the gear. I am 5�11� 192lb, my fat was at 11% three weeks ago when I started my cycle.

I need some help. I am only three weeks in to my cycle and I have gained 11lb�s. My problem is this. I am starting to retain water and I want to control it. What should I use?

I have (4) 5000iu of HCG and a shit load of Clomid!

My cycle is as shown below:

Week 1 --800mg of T200
Week 2 --800mg of T200
Week 3 --800mg of T200
Week 4 --800mg of T200
Week 5 --800mg of T200
Week 6 �Off
Week 7 �Off
Week 8 �800mg of Deca 75mg of Ref-b ED
Week 9 �600mg of Deca 75mg of Ref-b ED
Week 10 --600mg of Deca 75mg of Ref-b ED


Please give me some help


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pump_n_puke

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posted October 06, 2000 02:49 PM

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Please help


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Mr H

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posted October 06, 2000 02:53 PM

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Controlling water retention means less gains in both size AND strength. Take a half pill (10mgs) of Nolvadex EOD to control the water retention.


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quadzilla34

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posted October 06, 2000 02:57 PM

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as long as u can accept the fact ur cycle wont be as fulfilling, follow Mr H's instructions and you'll be fine.


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Slopain

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posted October 06, 2000 02:57 PM

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I use the nolva throughout big test cycles to minimize water gains, sure their gains but they don't stay. Id rather be more permanent then get all depressed watching all those pounds leave at the end of a cycle.

Slopain


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pump_n_puke

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posted October 06, 2000 02:58 PM

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OK, I will not worry about the water retention.

What do you think of my cycle and when should I start using the HCG and Clomid.

This is my first cycle and I wish I had started 2 years ago.


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Mr H

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posted October 06, 2000 03:00 PM

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Eat lots and you'll be a BIG BOY when it's all said and done. You can even use less Test than you're using if you want. Like 600MGs for weeks 2-5 then 400, and so on.


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pump_n_puke

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posted October 06, 2000 03:22 PM

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I still need to know how to use the HCG and Clomid. Please help.


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Mr H

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posted October 06, 2000 03:30 PM

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Take Clomid 50MG/EOD throughout then 100ED for the 2 weeks right after cycle than back to 50MGs EOD for the following 2 weeks.


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Hardcore4Evr

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posted October 06, 2000 03:39 PM

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Mr. H is definitely on the money when he says to take a half Nolv every other day. It will reduce gains slightly, but as Slopain said, its tough when you come off and lose so much of what you gained. Even though you lose mostly water weight, it can mess with your head.
Also, on the HCG thing, here is what i would recommend. In the middle of your cycle, i would take 5000iu's every 5 days and then cease usage of HCG. Total of 15000iu's you will need. This will help testicular atrophy, and blow those babies back to normal. Also, guys, what do you all think about using HCG after a cycle is up? Wouldnt you just use it during or would afterwards benifit you more?

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nutrimuscle

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posted October 10, 2000 02:36 PM

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Im on a deca/sust/d-bol cycle of 500mg wk test and 400mg wk deca. dbol 25mg for the first 2 weeks, 20 mg for the next 2 weeks. I im taking nolvadex (10mg EOD) throughout my cycle, but NOT using clomid EOD throughout the cycle. I guess I dont really see the point of using the clomid until the end. Anyone help with this one?


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Buld0g

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posted October 10, 2000 03:02 PM

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THE BOUNCER

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posted October 10, 2000 06:54 PM

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Drop to 500mgs in week 3-4.


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