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 DEATH from steroids abuse???
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 62 |
If AS are realy as dangerous as they are commonly beleived to be shouldn't there be evidence to support this. Is anybody aware of any documented evidence that steroids abuse is directly responsible for anyones death??? I don't see government organisations banning Asprin and that can kill u if u take to many. Besides the fact that many drugs are dangerous when misused and are also potentially addictive (cough medicine) they are still easily available at pharmacies and even convinience stores. Why all the hype about gear??? Just a thought i wanted to discuss.     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 98 |
PROPAGANDA SUCKS!!! ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 340 |
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA. society is pretty funny. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 607 |
I DON'T EVEN THINK DOCTORS REALLY BELIEVE THEY ARE THAT DANGEROUS. HOWEVER, SINCE POLITICIANS HAVE THE MOST POWER, DOCTORS CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT AND HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAWS. STEROIDS REALLY HAVE BEEN GIVEN A BAD RAP AND IT SEEMS LIKE CRACK AND HEROIN IS EVEN SAFER BY THE WAY THE MEDIA MAKES IT SEEMS. KNOW ONE SEEMS TO CARE THAT CRACK AND HEROIN ADDICTION IS A GREATER THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH BUT CHOOSE TO MAKE STEROIDS THE MOST EVIL DRUGS. STEROIDS DO HAVE SOME HEALTH BENEFITS, CRACK AND HEROIN HAVE NONE......... | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 13 |
think about it- almost everybody wants muscles, right? If juice was legal, every fucking moron (and kid) would be juicing without knowing anything about it. Then all the horror stories about juice would be true. At the gym, all I hear is kids talking about andro and creatine and how cool it is. I don't want to hear them talking about the latest A-bombs and halo they just got at GNC. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 20 |
I too am glad they are not legal, the Gov. would tax them to death, although i wish the penalty wasn't as stiff as it is if you get caught...As the topic of death goes i can honestly say i have never read where someone od'd on aas and died, have read there are factors from aas abuse leading to a disease (cancer) that has caused death, but if this was the case then why the hell do so many people in my town die from cancer, it's not anabolics thats for sure, they should look into what we consume like town water, god knows this shit can't be good for you! Dr.'s that is a total different story they prescribe drugs to people that only imagine they are sick then they get them addicted and the addicition turns into abuse and that is what kills them, I personally don't take a damn thing a Dr. prescibes for me, hell haven't been to a Dr. in 15 years i bet. Yet i'm in the healthiest condition of my 28 years i have ever been! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 67 |
It seems like everytime a medical journal publishes a new article on the benefits of steroids that there is always a corresponding anecdotal story about the death of somebody who is abusing them. it is no wonder that doctors are leary about prescribing AS. I think they should be legalized. I mean right now you can get AS for treatment of an illness, but because they are "illegal" doctors are afraid to prescribe them. Like somebody said, it is all about politics.What bullshit.... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 98 |
steroids have been used, and still is used to prolong peoples deaths, many with aids, cancer, and other immune disfunctional diseases owe alot to these "so called" abusive substances. fuck the media | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 340 |
no one has ever died from a steroid overdose. please let me know if you know of one, because I have never heard of one. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 225 |
Yeah, I agree...my girlfriend knows of someone who "died from taking steroids" but #1-doesn't know what he was taking, and #2-doesn't know 'how' he actually died! Although I don't if I exactly believe they should be legal, I find it ironic that alcohol and tobacco are, yet drugs that build muscle are not!! It would be scary to see little 12 year old peewee football stars going to Wal-Mart to get deca, but I agree the penalties should not be so harsh...it's a touchy subject, bump for some more opinions, insights from y'all!! ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1144 |
I don't think you can leagalize it in the sense that you would put it on the shelf next to the Tylenol. But it is crazy to have steroid posession carry a class X felony penalty also. [This message has been edited by ulter (edited October 05, 2000).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 168 |
Well I heard of a guy who died from steroids...I heard it from my friend who heard it from his cousin who heard it from a guy who lived in the same state as the guy who died who heard it from 2 guys talking at the gym who read it in the National Enquire..It's True...It's True ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 117 |
how much juice do u need to shoot up at one time to OD? hahah i dont think its possible is it?? but shit like cocaine or heroin u can od easy. and pretty much a good 90% of the world thinks steroids are just as bad or worst the cocaine and herion. The lack of general education about AS is seriously desturbing | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 340 |
you cannot die of a steroid overdose. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 170 |
never heard of one case directly linked to steroids..diuretics, yes..only assumptions and rumors when dealing with juice...to much of anything can be harmful...its always easier to blame gear instead of lifestyles.. ------------------ LIVE AND LEARN BROS | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 110 |
Well, this happened a few years ago......actually yeah, it was exactly 3 years ago. Me and my buddies from high school used to workout at a local gym here in town, and one day we heard some terrible news. A guy, while he was working out, had a massive heart attack, and fell down dead on the gym floor. I shit you not, this is a true story. The motherfuckers heart exploded in his chest. I dont know the correct term for that, but "exploding heart".....i think you get the picture. The doctors ruled out that his blood pressure was so sky high off roids, that his heart couldnt handle anymore stress, and boom......it gave out. This guy was competitive, well known, and freaky huge. So guys.......im not saying this happens every day, or every week, or even every year.....hell, it probably doesnt happen at all, but it did to that guy. Steroids are not bad.......but it just goes to show you that anything can happen. Not that im gonna stop juicin or anything......lol. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 340 |
you cannot blame steroids for that, that is bullshit. What about that NBA player who dropped dead in a middle of a game a few years back, I believe they found cocaine in his system and he had a heart defect. When I was in boot camp running our 3 mile PFT, there was a fatbody that dropped dead in the middle of a run. He also, had a heart defect. Do not place steroids to blame because they are not. It depends on the person and what they were born with, I'm sure steroids may not of helped things, but don't blame roids for the killer. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 110 |
You can't die from an overdose, but there has been one death and one death only linked to steroid use..He was a pro but I can't remember his name..I think Dan Duchaine talks about in one of his books..He used an obscene amount of roids though.....I think his last name was Muntzer....Bam Bam | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 110 |
Hey look, Timac, im just telling the truth about what happened. That guy did die from excessive amounts of steroids....mainly because it drove his blood pressure up sky high! The high blood pressure is what killed the motherfucker! I am in no need of flaming, and i hope you dont think im being an asshole. Im just merely telling you and everybody else, that shit can fucking happen. It does all the time. People die from everything. I just do not believe for one fucking second that only "1" person in this whole entire world, has ever died from steroids. YES, they will end up one day causing some serious side effects. But, the same shit happened with smoking. One day you are fine, the next you have cancer and your lungs are dying. Anything can happen.........to anybody. Period. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 579 |
Diuretics have harmed and killed BB's. MOMO died from this. Any system that is continually hit with large amounts of any foreign substance is taxed and can lead to an "earlier than normal" death. But, swallow a bottle of any rx med or even aspirin and you'll die. Swallow a bottle of dbol and you'll still see tomorrow. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 126 |
who saya you can't OD on AS just look at those guys parading with their undies on stage at the Olympia! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 98 |
Andreas Munzer didn�t die from steroid abuse. He died from the diuretics, same as momo. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 592 |
STEROIDS ARE VERY DANGEROUS when the person using them is uneducated. This is probably the reason why they are not legal, too many uneducated people would do more harm to there body than good. When used correctly, AAS are a safe, effective way of increasing muscle size and strength. I even talked to my doc about it one time just to get his opinon, and he said that they are safe. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 16 |
Football player Lionel Azedo (sp?) is a confirmed death of steroid OD. I also know of someone who acquired Luekemia injecting bunk roids. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 16 |
Steroids will never and should never be legalized until technology allows it. It would be insane for everyone to go about on a mood-enhancing drug. As if the news isn't already too full of murder, rape, etc. Until something is developed that has no side effects, we will never see it done. The only shot we have is to change the public's perception of AS, and especially the public's perception of the characters who use them, so as to minimize damage when damage occurs. And as far as alcohol and tobacco: alcohol has been too far embedded into our culture and traditions, before laws were even made, to change up now (we're hooked!). The same applies to tobacco, but I'll bet we'll see it out before our lives are up. [This message has been edited by IronMike (edited October 06, 2000).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 154 |
Lyle Alzado did not die of an AS overdose! Alledgedly, he died from a rare form of brain cancer that may have been contributed to using impure GH. You gotta wonder about Walter Payton and his liver going to shit though.... | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 16 |
I do remember the brain cancer, with his head all wrapped up, but I also remember his national anti-steroid campaign to kids, claiming that 7 years of non-stop abuse did him in. But you are right, it wouldn't be considered an overdose, but more correctly a steroid-related death. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 400 |
Alzado was a fag, literally. Sources say he died of a rare form of cancer that is common in homos and those with AIDS. He had to blame the roids, not the fact that he was a pole smoker. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 663 |
Get rid off the curse word and spelling mistakes and I would print this out to let mommy read it.....too bad | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 607 |
WELL FIRST OF ALL, STEROIDS CAN BE DANGEROUS IF YOU MISUSE THEM. THEY ARE DRUGS, JUST LIKE ASPRIN AND ANYTHING ELSE. HOWEVER AND THEY NEED TO BE INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO USE THEM. AND MOST IMPORTANT, KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN!! | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 6 |
If you take a look at the prestigious "Harrison textbook of internal medicine"you will read under "androgenic clinical applications"that AS are not used to enhance athletic performance ON ETHICAL GROUNDS. I don't think AS should be treated different than hundreds of others medications.If you can go to a plastic surgeon and ask for a face lift, liposuction, or whatever, you'll be wellcome, but if you go to a doc asking him to help you get massive, they get slippery, and the result is that people will do it anyway, and not everybody has the intelligence to research first. Look strong, feel good, BE HEALTHY!!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 72 |
Regarding Alzado's death. According to Dr. Rob Huizenga (who was Alzado's personal physician in his final days), there was *NO* evidence at all to show that Alzado's cancer was caused by steroid use. According to Dr. H, he actually told this to Lyle, but Lyle wanted to run with it like that anyway. He also stated that [in his opinion] AS, in extreme doses, cannot be good for you. To quote, "You're playing with nature's chemistry set... of course, that's true of any medication, not just AS." I've also heard (not substantiated by Dr. Huizenga) that Lyle was gay and his cancer was common in AIDS patients, and that the AIDS killed him before the cancer. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 154 |
I don't know if he was gay, but he had a GREAT looking wife at the end! She was in her 20's I think and they were newlyweds when he was diagnosed with cancer. Fine wife just a cover-up??? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 16 |
If Alzado died from AIDS, then we're back to square one looking for a steroid death. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 34 |
In a way I am glad that they are illegal. It cuts down on all the jack-asses 120lb. weisels from trying to get like us. The reason we do it is to look better, feel better, and be stronger than everyone else. We don't need 60% of the population trying to be us cause its legal. Let the law scare the punks away. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 125 |
Wow. Its a thread like this one that gives me the heebiest of jeebies. Twisted Steel, where are you on this? Keep these folks in line here. Not possible to OD on roids? Think again, kiddies. Don't start regurgitating all of this crap about how swallowing a bottle of this and that would'nt really be all that bad. Uh...yes, it just might. Depends on what it is, as well as the physical particulars of the individual doing the swallowing. And what is this talk about no evidence of roid harm? One guy mentioned Payton's liver. No shit. I gave myself hep with too much winny. Didn't take too long, either. You can shut your liver right the fuck down, folks. Right on down. Kidneys, too. Mix up that fina and fire a shot every day for too long and watch what happens. You'll change your mind about whether or not you could die from too much roids. Remember, an OD is not necessarily defined by the effects of a SINGLE dose. Various factors result in differing cumulative rates. Don't get me wrong, now. I think roids are relatively safe, and the benefits outweigh the risks for most of us. But don't kid yourselves about this stuff. Be careful. Oh yeah...Alzedo was indeed involved with the gay community, and was bisexual. Steroids alone did not kill him. However, he and some of his cohorts felt that there would be more good done if the message of potential steroid harm was spread, as opposed to what would undoubtedly resulted in a mere slandering of the gay community. Incidentally, I agree with them. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 168 |
God Damnit!!! Don't you people understand!!! Moderation and education are the thing!!! Don't do steroids until you are least 22 or 23...don't take massive amounts when small doses will do..don't fall into the "if 1 pill makes me big..then 3 will make me bigger" But most importanly...educate yourselves about AS.... As far as Alzado..Everything I heard was that he was closet homosexual and died from complications from AIDS...but he took the sissy way out and blamed it on AS..(wouldn't you do the same if you were a pole smoker--and no offense to pole smokers..i'm just making a point) His case reminds me of Ted Bundy's case where at the end he tried to blame porn for him raping and killing..its just a denial thing...Lyle did not die from steroids...that I have no doubt of... Just learn all you can before you do them..and like I said earlier..wait until you are 22 or 23 for you first cycle...Ok Im done posting for the night...sorry for my rant ------------------ | ||
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Guru 
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Drugs are BAAAAD  ------------------ "...damn you for not giving my TEST" - Metallica "After this show i'll be fat and happy again.....If i make it to the show...." - Lee Priest "Lets put some weight on the bar.." - Shawn Ray "IT DOESN'T MATTER" - The Rock |
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posted October 05, 2000 08:35 PM