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 Anavar vs. Dianabol How two 17-AA drugs yield Increases in strength!
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| Author | Topic: Anavar vs. Dianabol How two 17-AA drugs yield Increases in strength! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex, you stated it beautifully on the Canadian Anabolic forum! Explain to those of us who are interested in ergogenesis, the individual mechanism by which these two drugs yield increases in strength. There respected MO's are quite distinct. Don't forget to include for us sport specific events. ------------------      | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 206 |
Bump... (where y'a at Huck?) | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 694 |
I'm interested in this one. Huck???? ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 225 |
*B*U*M*P* for Mr. FINNaplex... | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 395 |
i wanna here this.... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 147 |
Anavar is my #1 oral for strength that actually lasts ie: Halo. 40mg a day for 4 weeks and you'll make everyone in the gym drool. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 576 |
Huck, I'm interested also!!!! Where you at Bro???? | ||
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Freak 
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Ha!!Sorry fellas,was at work,here ya go.Dianabol(methandrostenelone)Yields immediate and dramatic strength gains through estradiol-induced intra-cellular water-retention.Its mass building properties are achieved through other mechanisms,but thats straying off the subject somewhat,as we're concerning ourselves with strength here.Anavar(oxandrolone),which is a non-aromitizing anabolic,achieves its strength-building properties by increasing creatine synthesis within the muscle-cell.This makes anavar perfect for power lifters/athletes that want to stay within a certain weight class,as well as pre-contest dieters that want to hold on to their strength,without sacrificing sharpness due to estrogen related edema.Oxandrolone also is distinctive in that it is one of the only anabolics to have ever been PROVEN to reduce visceral fat stores,which is obviously exactly what we would want when dieting down. [This message has been edited by HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex (edited October 05, 2000).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1127 |
Well it was worth staying up for..Thanks Ape | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 330 |
since they both are different, can we stack them? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 395 |
how long should one stay on anavar? I was thinking 60 days? Also, how long till the strength increases start? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1127 |
You'll notice it in about a week but you'll really put on more plates by the end of your 3rd week. Yes 60 days is fine but we have to hide this post from AM. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 690 |
Huh, interesting stuff Huck, I'd like to read more about oxandrolone's effects on sub-cut fat, do you know of any articles floating around on the net? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 115 |
GOOD POST! We need more like this. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 205 |
hey hucklberry, if anavar works by manipulating creatine stores, would it be good to add creatine to an anavar cycle. ive wondered this before. -Pops | ||
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Freak
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Excellent question bro.I would assume it would.You would basically be saturating the cells with all the raw materials that oxandrolone uses to work its magic.I say we start by being the first guinea pigs to try out and report on this theory!I would also like to hear some input from my mentors on this subject-Twisted_Steel,E2,or Cockdezl,any opinion on this guys? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 172 |
quote: i would like to know the same thing?? so i'll bump this, | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 490 |
my main man Huck..btw mail ------------------ | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1858 |
Got it...back at ya... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 135 |
Thank you Huck. But it`s not a good idea to stack dbol and anavar together isn`t it? And this stack could be a real problem for liver  I`m thinking about stacking anavar with deca and winny. What do you think about it? | ||
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Freak
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As long as you're having liver profiles ran every few weeks just to be on the safe side,I think it will be o.k..That is a terrific trio for cutting,as the winny would take care of any possible progestenic aromitization(bloat)You could always substitute the deca with Primobolan as well,and avoid any aromitization all together,as all 3 of your substances at that point would be non-aromitizing anabolics.Whatever route you decide to go,please give us all your feedback on how it works for you. [This message has been edited by HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex (edited October 06, 2000).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 135 |
I`m planning this cut cycle on february. Now I`m on dbol/nandrolone/omna cycle. Thank you for info Huck. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 576 |
Pops, I've run Anavar both alone and with Creatine and here's what I found. Strength gains and hardness using it alone while dieting down, even better strength gains but water retention(bloating) while using the Creatine. You can definately use both Anavar and Creatine, it just depends on where your at in your preparation. If your dieting down I'd avoid it. Strength gains both times were almost imediate, with a very noticable gain by the end of week 3. As to the Anavar and Dianabol together, since there is significant evidence that suggests that Anavar not only doesn't hurt the liver, but in most cases helps it, you should not shy away from stacking these two. Again this is based on actual experience and not what I've read on someones' board. The one time I used both together, my liver values along with some other levels were closely monitored and they actually got better in spite of the D-bol. Now granted I was on a low dose of both for 6 weeks, the D-bol at 30mg/day straight through, and the Anavar at 25mg/day straight through. I dont know if they would change at higher dosages, but I always got good results with low doses so there was never a need to up them. If I could find Anavar at a decent price I'd run a test for everyone, but the only prices I can find recently would mean selling one of my kids, LOL!!!!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 135 |
Thank you for the post Yoda! Now I`m thinking about adding some anavar in my dbol cycle! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 206 |
Bump... | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1858 |
Bump this for the gifted ones.Fellas,what do you think about stacking creatine/oxandrolone for a synergistic effect,make sense? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 206 |
Huck, Based on the information presented here, yes. For me personally, no way! All creatine does for me is create an optimum environment for serious pulls/tears. I stay away from that shit these days. Probably good for most bros' though. Later, | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 65 |
Yes it's a great idea to take creatine with the anavar. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 740 |
Amazing... an informative post here still... maybe I'll stay around a while and see what happens. I'm going to starting a fairly heavy cycle in the next coming weeks, though I need to order pins AGAIN due to the fact that someone disappeared... I think I'll be adding some of the Ttokkyo Oxandrolone to the cutting part of the cycle. Seems like a good add, and at the cost in Mexico, a relatively inexpensive one. |
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posted October 05, 2000 08:01 PM