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bigsexy

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posted October 05, 2000 06:58 PM

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would a dbol only cycle for four weeks taken with clomid be a waste or would you make pretty good keepable gains??


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harmonic

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posted October 05, 2000 07:01 PM

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I did one for about 5weeks 25mg a day, I maybe got about 2-3 lbs out of it. It was a waste for me..


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ColumboWeiser

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posted October 05, 2000 07:12 PM

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Personally I would say YES...you cannot keep the gains from it...I have a buddy who will not listen to what I tell him, He will take 200-500 dbol in six weeks, get pretty big, then after a few weeks off he loses ALL of his size, sometimes more...you need some test with it, or use eq, primo, deca....
this way you keep your gains....

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Dutch

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posted October 05, 2000 07:21 PM

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Dbol alone is not a waste. I did it and was very happy with the results. Gained 8 kg (about 16 lbs) and kept 5 (about 11 lbs). If you train and eat right you can and will keep most of your gains.


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Future One

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posted October 05, 2000 07:30 PM

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It all depends on your genetics, and your diet. As a general rule you could probably keep 50-60% IF you use Clomid. Otherwise you might keep 20-30%, maybe...

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posted October 05, 2000 07:36 PM

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dutch your a fuit loop, you probaly just got serious in the gym and started eating right-hence your permanent gain. as to keeping, being on alone, then yeah its a waste. but it does feel damn good to be on them, so find a different exuse to take them or gear to go w/ it.

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Dutch

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posted October 05, 2000 07:52 PM

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Fuit loop ??? have you ever done a dbol only cycle ?? guess not.. so don't respond !

i tell you like it is. i have no reason to lie. no reason to flame me..
(and yes, i agree you will do even better if you stack it.)

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Spunky

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posted October 05, 2000 08:35 PM

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my 1st cycle was dbol only. went great. i gained 20lbs, when i came off i lost around 4lbs, give or take a lb. i've been off for over a month, strength has dropped a tad but hardly noticeable. i also trained hard, had a very high protein intake, used clomid, and when the cycle was over kept my protein intake very high and kept training hard. I started the cycle at 193 lbs. Got up to 213lbs, then dropped to around 209-210 post cycle. After cycle I kept eating alot of protein and started taking creatine & pro performance weight gainer, now im sitting at 216lbs, strength isn't where it was when I was on the dbol but its a heck of a lot more then it was when I was natural. For some, dbol only might not work. but for me it did. go figure...


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jimbaker

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posted October 05, 2000 08:58 PM

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i took some dbols alone before..didnt consider it a cycle...gotta stack for a cycle IMO...lol...started at 35mg and tapered down to 20mg for 6 weeks...i estimate i put on about 5lbs LBM which isnt bad at all, held alittle water, not alot...strength increased of course...wasnt a complete waste, more of an experiment..hehe...if you want to add more mass just do a basic stack of sos/dbol...i think youll be much happier than using dbol alone for 4 wks
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Hudson

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posted October 05, 2000 09:23 PM

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I don't see the point in putting all the effort in your diet, training and waste money to look and feel great for 6-8 weeks and then lose everything.
This is what happened to me. I felt great, lifted heaps and gained a lot of size and then when I had finished my body returned to the same as when I started.

Stack it with something else and you will be laughing.

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rainhorn

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posted October 05, 2000 09:37 PM

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hwo much wre you going to take?


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MONSTROSITY

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posted October 05, 2000 09:39 PM

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Hunt around for some test, then you will have a cycle.


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Spunky

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posted October 05, 2000 09:48 PM

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If I was going to lose weight, wouldn't I have already started? I can't remember the exact date but I have to be pushing close to 5 weeks off now. I took some measurments before and after and all have gotten larger and stayed that way. Could I just be an exception to the rule?


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AS

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posted October 05, 2000 10:57 PM

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i did a 5mg cycle (1pill) for two weeks and then upped it to 10mg for another two weeks. took creatine and went from 187 to 202 in that periode. lost most of size and strength,,i may try it next time with test or primobolan,,,also thinking of trying dbol with a low dose cyle while on a calorie restricted diet with anavar


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Decablood

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posted October 05, 2000 11:05 PM

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DO NOT do a cycle of only dbol alone.....once oyu stop popping that little pill you'll find that alot of your gains will drasticly go away...dbols love to retain water, causing you to "blow up" or have that puffy look.....stack it with an injectable and you'll keep more....

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bigsexy

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posted October 06, 2000 12:42 AM

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i have done dbol before, for four weeks, 3/day weeks 1 and 4, 4/day weeks 2 and 3
i came off with a little primobolan 200 mg for 4 weeks
i gained 25 pounds and didnt lose one pound and didnt even have any clomid at the time,
so i know my body responds well to dbol
do you guys think it was the primobolan that helped me keep my gains, also, would eq or deca be just as good?? thanks for all your help


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Twisted91

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posted October 06, 2000 01:04 AM

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If you have nothing else to do w/ your time it's not a waste of you time but may be a waste of money(even though thier not exp.)
but i have to agree w/ MONSTROSITY and find
test to stack w/. I can almost guarantee you'll loose everything in a month.


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Dutch

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posted October 06, 2000 01:10 AM

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twisted have you actually done a dbol only cycle. How much have you gained during and lost after the cycle ??


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mightymouse1

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posted October 06, 2000 01:18 AM

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i did d-bol only for 8 weeks when i was done in about 1 week i wieghed less than i did before i started and i could feel the strength decrease, i would not call it a waste but i will always stack from now on


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Twisted91

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posted October 06, 2000 01:56 AM

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Dutch, I started my sus d-bol cycle w/ d-bol and sus then gave the rest of my d-bol to my lifting partner.He used 5 dailey for 4 weeks
and gained a substantial amount of wieght most of wich was water.He trained just as hard as i and although he kept some strenth gains he lost everything(wieght) within a month.Now' i cant say wether his diet was strict enough to keep the wieght but from what he told me he took in a sufficient amount of calories.

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M1KAI

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Bro,
Ok this is no bull shit but i got about 30 pounds out of a d'bol only cycle and kept nearly all of it 28lbs.

Thats scary eh but i must be odd as no one here has ever kept the gains off d'bol It was my fist cycle though and i did approx 200 d'bol though (Naposim) My source says that its odd putting on that much weight he say's that i should of stacked it with test.

I would be inclined to listen to the guys here i did not and just used the d'bol and was lucky but most of the guys here know what they are on about so listen and stack it.

But if your intrested here is what it looked like


=======D'bol============Clomid
Week1--245mg 7 day------
Week2--210mg 6 day------
Week3--175mg 5 day------
Week4--105mg 3 day------
Week5-------------------50mg eod
Week5-------------------50mg eod

Now i took them once every 4 hours exactly.

I expect i will get hassle for this but its true i wish i had taken some before pic's but i did not so no way of proveing that i got that much apart from my girl friend and a few friends who know me and of course my source.

I have some pics now but will not be posting them for a while im gonna do two more cycles and take pic's after each cycle and post them all after the two more the results shold be intresting...!

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Linares868

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posted October 06, 2000 04:36 AM

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Yes. I would at least take some sort of injectable if you can get it. Any Test. would be great combination with DBol's.


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Fish

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posted October 06, 2000 09:03 AM

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MightyMouse,

What are you going to stack it with?

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Spunky

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M1KAI: I believe we talked through email a bit before I started my dbol cycle. I had simliar gains, but no one really believes me either. I've kept almost all of the weight and its been over a month since I've been off. Do certain people respond better to certain cycles? I honestly didn't expect to gain as much as I did. My lifting partner took the same cycle and didn't gain hardly any weight but got stronger.. and then i took it shortly after he did and gained 20lbs...


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M1KAI

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Spunky
I dunno everyone is different i know what i got from it and its odd and you the same everyone os different and i guess you and me responded really well to the D'bol Its been 2 months now and im into my next cycle and am slowly putting on weight in week 4 of 8 of sust and deca.

I liked the D'bol im gonna do a short 20 day cycle and stack it with Primo should get 6 to 8 pounds out of it with any luck..!

As many of the bro's here say Genectics has a big role to play and we all have a different blend.

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Dutch

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Twisted, thanks for the reply.. this is very strange.. i have heard before that people react differenty on dbol. Lots of people love it and are able to keep most of the gains. it seems almost the same with winstrol. Some are doing extremely well on it while others consider it a waste of time and money.. as far as i know both dbol and winstrol have weak binding to the AR.. i like them both.. thanks !


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tri~zilla

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posted October 06, 2000 03:11 PM

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d-bol= water, bloating, aromatization, period.


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Spunky

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posted October 06, 2000 07:36 PM

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"d-bol= water, bloating, aromatization, period." Maybe for you.. for me it meant pretty solid gains.


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There is no reason why the gains on methandrostenolone would be any different than the gains on any other steroid or combination. All androgenic/anabolic steroids have been shown to increase protein accrual. With high aromatizing steroids, such as Dbol, then one must take into account that a portion of the gains are simply water.

As for the anecdotal replies stating that they have gained size on a this drug only to lose it all...well this can be found for all steroid cycles and one must take into account a large number of other variables. I, for one, witnessed a person make excellent gains (28lbs total,18lbs retained) on an Anadrol-only cycle.


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posted October 07, 2000 09:09 PM

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TRY IT FOR FIVE WEEKS BRO, I THINK YOU WILL BE SURPRISED.


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Spunky

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posted October 08, 2000 06:36 PM

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thats what im screamin...... =)


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Mojo

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posted October 08, 2000 07:38 PM

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Ask Arnold and see what he says about D-bol!


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